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Just a general question about it, since I got documented about the riots that are happening in the UK. I think legal immigration is something fine, the problem arises when people constantly ask for people to come all the time illegally, which will only cause troubles on the long run.
MIxed feelings. There are a bunch of variations of Immigration for me.
The most important thing for me is, if a migrant commits a crime that is severe (rape, murder, burglary etc.) they should get the fuck out of the country or be massivly fucked by the legal system. We repeatetly see in the news when litteral criminals go scotch free (basically, or only a couple months of jail).
Get them the fuck out of the country. The New years celebration in Hamburg a couple of years ago were the last straw for many germans and part of the reason why the far right AFD gets more and more power.
And the stabbings in Britian? Not a muslim but still a immigrant. If they cant behave, get the fuck out.
Generally, im more positive towards white immigrants. Europeans moving to another european country for education, work or other stuff is good. Switzerland was litteraly build my immigrants. Foreigners (mostly european) work in construction, building management (clean-up crews and repairmen/women), many children of immigrants get better and better education here.
I also have more open feelings about european refugees.
We clearly saw a difference between ukrainian refugees and syrian.
Syrian refugees are mostly men that come over here and either dont integrate good or just commit some random crime and get kicked the fuck out.
Ukrainians? In the first year, nearly only Women and Children have seek refuge in western europe. The men? stayed fighting because their country was attacked, even women joied the army. Ukranian diaspora moved back to ukraine just to help, fight and rebuild.
Ukranians also just integrated far better than any other group of people. Even my godamn girlfriend is ukranian and she learned german in under 2 years. Most other people who were even born here cant even speak german properly.
I don't think immigration will solve many problems in europe. Especially not importang those who cant even intergrate.
Illegal immigration is difficult to control, especially if your country is not an island , although it is possible to reduce the flow of illegal immigrants by simply reducing or canceling social support for them , and legal migration is an excellent tool for enriching the country and the people , if migration laws are drawn up correctly , then you can ensure that a significant part of immigrants will have the qualities you need , but even so, everything does not end there, the most important thing begins, assimilation, it is important to make sure that migrants assimilate into society, it is worth avoiding the appearance of ghettos and the fact that they would live on unemployment benefits, instead living in areas with a predominant number of national populations and working with local ones, so that as much as possible accelerate the assimilation process . So there is no need to abandon migration , it is impossible and not required, especially since it is beneficial for states that already trained and ready-to-work specialists come to the country, so with proper planning, migration is a good tool for enriching the state and the people, although it is incredibly difficult to use
KarcH said:
Illegal immigration is difficult to control, especially if your country is not an island , although it is possible to reduce the flow of illegal immigrants by simply reducing or canceling social support for them , and legal migration is an excellent tool for enriching the country and the people , if migration laws are drawn up correctly , then you can ensure that a significant part of immigrants will have the qualities you need , but even so, everything does not end there, the most important thing begins, assimilation, it is important to make sure that migrants assimilate into society, it is worth avoiding the appearance of ghettos and the fact that they would live on unemployment benefits, instead living in areas with a predominant number of national populations and working with local ones, so that as much as possible accelerate the assimilation process . So there is no need to abandon migration , it is impossible and not required, especially since it is beneficial for states that already trained and ready-to-work specialists come to the country, so with proper planning, migration is a good tool for enriching the state and the people, although it is incredibly difficult to use
Stopping illegal immigration isnt hard, every single nonwhite country can do it as well as white countries a few decades ago. What is hard is actually making our politicians and people in power actually want to stop it instead of funding and helping it with NGOs. Immigrants are literally brought here and given free housing and stuff. Literally just look at Hungary, it's not hard you just go after the NGOs.
fkiblaze said:
Stopping illegal immigration isnt hard, every single nonwhite country can do it as well as white countries a few decades ago. What is hard is actually making our politicians and people in power actually want to stop it instead of funding and helping it with NGOs. Immigrants are literally brought here and given free housing and stuff. Literally just look at Hungary, it's not hard you just go after the NGOs.
Iirc Hungary isn't too bad but some still get through. They have a mile of territory then two rows of chain link fence with barbed wire. So if one does get over they can just put them on the other side of the fence still in Hungary and not violating any code. The US needs to copy. I think Texas was pretty smart with sending the migrants to blue cities like Chicago and New York. Making those not in my back yard people wake up so the problem goes to them
Flamberge said:
Iirc Hungary isn't too bad but some still get through. They have a mile of territory then two rows of chain link fence with barbed wire. So if one does get over they can just put them on the other side of the fence still in Hungary and not violating any code. The US needs to copy. I think Texas was pretty smart with sending the migrants to blue cities like Chicago and New York. Making those not in my back yard people wake up so the problem goes to them
That was my point about Hungary, they dont have so high tech israeli type border. They literally just have a fence, but even they can stop immigration because it's just about enforcement.
H0sh said:
In regards to America because that's where I live, I personally believe the lack of care with immigration is purposeful. Immigration can increase birth rates, bring in new consumers to be marketed to and bring a pool of cheaper laborers to hire. It's profitable for the government and corporations. Same reason firearm, drug and human trafficking aren't taken seriously. Almost every politician in this country probably has their finger in each pie.
Firearms are literally the one thing that the lobbyists are actually funded by the people, so it's kinda a different situation. Politicians constantly want to ban guns, but it's the one thing the right wing people in America have constantly pushed back against that.
Reichist said:
Completely ban it there's no reason for immigration at all any "benifits" does not out way the cons it is literally just replacing white people or settler population its a kike thing so just get rid of kikes and it goes away
Honestly i dont really even see any benefits to immigration, even supposedly "high skill immigration" where it's just a bunch of H1B visa indians that do a sloppier job and you have a hard time understanding.
As most people point out the problem isn't really illegal immigration - that's very hard to control and you'll never fully stop illegal border crossings.
The issue is the fact the UK has a support system for illegal immigrates with many of them being classed under " aslyum seekers " and given housing, food, money & jobs to setup a life in the UK indefinently - the government literally do more for illegal immigrants than they do their own citizens.
another issue is just the types of immigrants we get - they're always from arab countries and usually get here by crossing the channel and then are granted " asylum seeker status " - this is inspite of the fact if they were actual aslyum seekers they'd have been fine to stop in south east europe - go to georgia instead you don't need to come to england for first world living standards.
Legal immigration is not fine either imo. Because legal immigration still opens the flood gates to the unwashed masses of ethnics entering white nations and denigrating our lands. Quality of everything goes down, when quantity of ‘immigrants’ (ie brown people let’s be honest) goes up. A total shutdown on most legal immigration is in order, to halt this advance of seemingly unlimited low skill ‘workers’ entering the countries and more often than not abusing the welfare whites pay into, and only those who come on visas for higher skill jobs and/or high paying positions should be considered, especially if they are not ethnically European. And no, Turks, Persians, Iranians, and JEWS do not count as European.
Everything should ideally be done on a case by case basis but that’s unrealistic, and we literally can’t afford all the stupid mopey sob stories of ‘x brown family can’t stand to be in their country so they have to be legalised here’ ad-infinitum anymore. If anything, not just the illegals but those who came here (as in to Western European nations) ‘legally’ or via asylum/refugee status should be deported because they’re nothing but a hassle and an active destabilising force.
We extend the olive branch, they rip it from our hands and then proceed to snap in two. That’s my hot take and tbh this thread is getting annoying even seeing it in the forums constantly, I was planning on ignore maxxing it but it seems to keep being commented on, so here’s my c0nTRoVersiAL opinion.
Colonizer_God said:
Bullet hit jack shit. Didn't even leave a real wound, no matter how much he tried to play up the dummy bandage.
It was about an inch from ending his life, and even a good rifle at over 100 yards will have an inch of deviation/innaccuracy (ie 1MOA) so it was pretty much just chance he lived.
