Oriflamme said:
Finally someone here drops an elite reference and totally gets the entire point of bleaching
You're welcome.
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Alright here we fucking go.
mikesm88 said:
'im having sex with this hot Asian girl, hell yeah! I wonder what her brother is thinking right now'
Bleached is not having an inter-racial kink or just girls having a " white guy " fetish - argue it all you want but you'll find that just goes under the category of just having an " inter-racial " kink and a majority of asian posts I see are a white guy cucking their " tiny dick asian bf " or something similar - the fundemental idea of bleached is also women & femboys only fucking white people - which is directly cucking minorities. You have an NTR fetish.
Nordic_redhaired_Bvll said:
I see the sentiment that "bleached is just a colour swapped version of blacked" a lot and I would disagree. sure we do a lot of the same things people criticize blacked for but in my experience that does not seem to be what people on here focus on. Bleached roughly speaking atleast to me is more of a response to blacked (or atleast the blacked spam that has infested many sites). People who are tired of the spam that permeates 4chan, r34 and other sites. So you get a lot of people here that dislike some of the more common elements that you can find being shared (cuckoldry etc). So in turn you get a community that are already kind of hostile to kinks like that due to having grown tired of seeing it spammed everywhere
Another more simplistic explaination is that most blacked content is produced by and for non-black (not just white) guys while bleached is mostly made by and for white guys (atleast from what I am gathering). And cuck shit or ntr mostly appeals to cucks not the bulls so obviously you are going to get a different focus and obviously cucking would be less popular here than it is on the "other side"
Edit: one last comment talking about racial cucking and likening it to ntr feels like a logical fallacy if i was smarter i bet i could name it off the top of my head
My main gripe comes from people saying bleached is better for XYZ unlike blacked, but bleached will do XYZ - the most common thing people point towards and try to say we're different about is misogony , " bleached isn't a misogonist kink! " .. except a lot of the users are and hate to see women in positions of power ( Femdom, Yuridom , Futadom ) posts where a woman is in a dominant position immediately getting a bunch of hateful comments or corrective homophobia ( guys trying to insert a man into the picture because god forbid we have lesbians ) I also don't think the statement that bleached and blacked are fundementally the same is incorrect, at the end of the day they're just kinks about women only fucking your specific race.
Also i fail to see how it's a logical fallacy to say NTR & Racial-cucking are different things - NTR is just the weeb way to say " cucking " the same way " Yuri " means " Lesbian " , you'd essencially be arguing that racial-cucking & normal cucking are different ( which they aren't )
fkiblaze said:
The first few responses all got the top three reasons NTR sucks, based.
Also, people have pointed it out before but no bleached and blacked arent just 2 sides of the same coin, although some people might use bleached like blacked, ultimately for me and many other people, bleached is just a "eugenics" kink. AKA breed right breed white. It's about women having class and choosing the best genepool to breed with, blacked on the other hand is the reverse. It's about degrading the woman akin to pseudo bestiality, and having the women be defiled be inferior apemen genes and being left as a single mom.
I'd argue the " Ugenics " side is more of a problem and doesn't represent what the majority of people like within the kink a lot of people I talk to in DMs actively dislike the fact the majority of edits are of white girls ( it's not really up for debate, why are blonde haired blue eyes girls on the bleachbooru main page? - get me a latina! ) and it isn't even like it's a wholy original side to it, blacked often tries to confusingly claim that black women can be " blacked " and every so often you'll see them pathetically try to edit a popular dark skinned character ( Bea, Yoruichi, Parah, Miriko , etc ) with the tattoos ( these are terrible, black ink on black skin looks fucking horrible ) and ' keep the undesirables out ' is the main part of the copycat fetish " Riced "
Though I do feel the majority of people responding missed the point which was simply " why do you hate NTR so much when Bleached is literally merged with it " - like i said any kink that's built on the idea of supremecy and exclusion is cucking - " no i only have sex with white guys " is going to be cucking a minority , it's not uncommon to see penis comparison , denialplay ( " ew that thing is tiny " or " sorry, no blacks allowed~ " ) , even straight up cucking being inserted into posts via comments ( " He's so much bigger than her pathetic asian bf " and such ) - the kink is so tightly wrapped around NTR it's not even funny - like the main 2 simplest edits you can make for this kink are " white-only " or " bleached " face censors or basic tattoo edits ( a lot which only permitting whites )
This is denial play, denial play is cucking - you are into cucking/NTR.
I just find the pushback/Denial to be literal insanity and I feel like the only reason people do pushback is that they're insecure about it.
AryanSuperSoldier said:
No good, for one, all kids need good fathers that’ll be there and be good role models. It’s simply not enough to just have kids, I know crazy thought you actually have to BE there for the kids so that they don’t turn out fucked up. Only some black men are capable of this, but they are better off with their own women in this regard because, culturally and socially speaking ALL people are much better suited for dating and forming relationships in their own communities and cultures. There’s less stigma, there’s more mutual commonality, shared values etc. Black people (if they want to curb the racial prejudice they often face) need to fix their communities, not jump shark into others and piggy back off of them, I’m sure there are good black women who genuinely desire good black men, as with any kind of woman for their kind(race) of man.
The general trend of black male with white female relationships is poor, like really poor, pretty much everywhere too, be it America, Europe, etc they end prematurely and often because of some kind of violence, or domestic dispute, or ‘conflict of interest’ this isn’t me just thinking this is the case, this is objective reality. In fact most interracial marriages/relationships fail except for white male and black female which are more stable than even wmwf, white male and Asian female, white male… you get the point.
In spite of all of that, white women ought to be with white men, simply because they’re more compatible, and secondarily because they make white babies. Black women seek out white men out of a desire for love and security that they can’t get from black men, in spite of the scorn they get from their own community, and the social stigma they face from society at large. Black men seek out white women mostly out of lust, jealousy and social engineering which is why the relationships deteriorate and fall apart shortly. It’s actually a rather recent phenomenon for black men (and all kinds of men tbh) to be ravenously lusting after white women, least of all be attracted to them.
Look if it was up to me, I don’t think honestly that any race mixing besides those done out of genuine love and intimacy should ever be considered, even with wmxf relationships. I know that’s crazy to say on bleachbooru but it’s just true that men and women of the same race are better off with each other in general EVEN IF the stats seem to show that most women prefer and are better off with white men.
But if it eugenics thing does it matter who the father is. Still would be what some people describe here as an impure child
simpyblack said:
But if it eugenics thing does it matter who the father is. Still would be what some people describe here as an impure child
I’m not talking about the eugenics aspect of it. All half-breeds, mixed race or ‘mutts’ would be considered ‘impure’ by virtue of them definitionally not being purely one race or the other. Just because some people aren’t purely one race or another doesn’t mean they can’t be attractive either, I happen to think that half white and half Asian women are some of the most attractive women in the world, but they’re still half-breeds.
I don’t really care about eugenics beyond the fetish aspect sometimes when I’m horny, irl actual eugenics is a lot different to how it’s depicted in media and especially pornographic media. Realistically now, actual eugenics should be done via direct genetic modification, medical intervention (such as aborting fetuses that simply aren’t viable or are disabled in some way) and other less intrusive personal means, rather than oddly complex breeding programs like some sort of weird fetish someone would have about Nazis that they never actually did. The only true breeding program that Nazis ever did was giving women medals and tax breaks for the more kids they had, something governments to this day sometimes still do.
AryanSuperSoldier said:
I’m not talking about the eugenics aspect of it. All half-breeds, mixed race or ‘mutts’ would be considered ‘impure’ by virtue of them definitionally not being purely one race or the other. Just because some people aren’t purely one race or another doesn’t mean they can’t be attractive either, I happen to think that half white and half Asian women are some of the most attractive women in the world, but they’re still half-breeds.
I don’t really care about eugenics beyond the fetish aspect sometimes when I’m horny, irl actual eugenics is a lot different to how it’s depicted in media and especially pornographic media. Realistically now, actual eugenics should be done via direct genetic modification, medical intervention (such as aborting fetuses that simply aren’t viable or are disabled in some way) and other less intrusive personal means, rather than oddly complex breeding programs like some sort of weird fetish someone would have about Nazis that they never actually did. The only true breeding program that Nazis ever did was giving women medals and tax breaks for the more kids they had, something governments to this day sometimes still do.
I think abortion is murder, but we should castrate people with harmful traits so they don't breed.
My best guess as to why NTR is so controversial is because of how visceral it is. People have their waifus/husbandos that are comfort characters to them, so they develop a bond with them and the universes they're from.
Then an NTR concept breaks that comfort in a hardcore way and it's both upsetting as well as really intense. You can't really softcore it, after all. So it makes sense that a lot of people have an adverse reaction to it, can't really fault them for that.
Kink is kink, and as someone that enjoys NTR myself (fuck, most of my edits are implied NTR) I don't feel like a worse person for it. Taboo kink =/= condoning irl, after all.
IvoryFutaIII said:
like i said any kink that's built on the idea of supremecy and exclusion is cucking - " no i only have sex with white guys " is going to be cucking a minority
No it is not the same. Cucking implies that woman was another man's gf/wife. A woman who doesnt want anything to do with a man is not "cucking" whatsoever. That's like saying every girl who refused to date you is cucking you.
IvoryFutaIII said:
I'd argue the " Ugenics " side is more of a problem and doesn't represent what the majority of people like within the kink a lot of people I talk to in DMs actively dislike the fact the majority of edits are of white girls ( it's not really up for debate, why are blonde haired blue eyes girls on the bleachbooru main page? - get me a latina! ) and it isn't even like it's a wholy original side to it, blacked often tries to confusingly claim that black women can be " blacked " and every so often you'll see them pathetically try to edit a popular dark skinned character ( Bea, Yoruichi, Parah, Miriko , etc ) with the tattoos ( these are terrible, black ink on black skin looks fucking horrible ) and ' keep the undesirables out ' is the main part of the copycat fetish " Riced "
AryanSuperSoldier said:
I’m not talking about the eugenics aspect of it. All half-breeds, mixed race or ‘mutts’ would be considered ‘impure’ by virtue of them definitionally not being purely one race or the other. Just because some people aren’t purely one race or another doesn’t mean they can’t be attractive either, I happen to think that half white and half Asian women are some of the most attractive women in the world, but they’re still half-breeds.
I don’t really care about eugenics beyond the fetish aspect sometimes when I’m horny, irl actual eugenics is a lot different to how it’s depicted in media and especially pornographic media. Realistically now, actual eugenics should be done via direct genetic modification, medical intervention (such as aborting fetuses that simply aren’t viable or are disabled in some way) and other less intrusive personal means, rather than oddly complex breeding programs like some sort of weird fetish someone would have about Nazis that they never actually did. The only true breeding program that Nazis ever did was giving women medals and tax breaks for the more kids they had, something governments to this day sometimes still do.
I think people missunderstand what i meant by eugenics. Eugenics doesnt have to mean "racial purity" it just means improving your genepool. For example the south american trend of wanting to marry a white guy so ur kid is more white and has higher IQ, etc is bleached eugenics, even if the kid isn't fully white because the nonwhite woman is adding more high quality genes. One example is this guys link:
AryanStud said:
the child of a white man and a black woman is more human than a black person. the goal is to continue this breeding pattern over time until black people disappear. here's an illustration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham%27s_Redemption
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TallWhiteAndHung said:
50/50 chance she turns out to be a single mother, other 50 is her being victim of domestic violence.
It's actually way higher. 95-98% chance white women end up as single moms from black fathers. It's the highest rate of any pairing, so even higher than black women with black men.
simpyblack said:
What about a child of a black man and a white woman
Along with what other people said, women are the reproductive unit so white women it's the opposite effect. If black women improve their children(on average) by having white fathers, white women unimprove them by having black fathers. Just a single metric, tho this tracks for all the other ones, but a black woman who marries a white man will have higher IQ children, where as a white woman who does so with a black man will have lower IQ children than if she went with a white man, hence it's opposite.
fkiblaze said:
It's actually way higher. 95-98% chance white women end up as single moms from black fathers. It's the highest rate of any pairing, so even higher than black women with black men.
Along with what other people said, women are the reproductive unit so white women it's the opposite effect. If black women improve their children(on average) by having white fathers, white women unimprove them by having black fathers. Just a single metric, tho this tracks for all the other ones, but a black woman who marries a white man will have higher IQ children, where as a white woman who does so with a black man will have lower IQ children than if she went with a white man, hence it's opposite.
But by that logic, wouldn't it be bad for the white guy. Since it making there gene pool less, even if it make the black woman gene pool better. What if you have a black male a kid..who people just argued are animals. A kid who you going to least half way hate. Unless your planning to deuce out...which takes away the benefit black women will get.
It seem to me. People just really want to fuck black women and white women. Because even the most racist of people can deny there some black women that fucking hot.
But they don't want white women fucking black men simple because there people into bleach who get a little bit Genghis Khan..where the don't white women to get it on when anyone but them
simpyblack said:
But by that logic, wouldn't it be bad for the white guy. Since it making there gene pool less, even if it make the black woman gene pool better. What if you have a black male a kid..who people just argued are animals. A kid who you going to least half way hate. Unless your planning to deuce out...which takes away the benefit black women will get.
It seem to me. People just really want to fuck black women and white women. Because even the most racist of people can deny there some black women that fucking hot.
But they don't want white women fucking black men simple because there people into bleach who get a little bit Genghis Khan..where the don't white women to get it on when anyone but them
A man having sex with a nonwhite woman doesn't magically make the unrelated white woman have a black kid. Once again, females are the reproductive unit of a society/civilization. That is why every culture looks down on their women having men of other races/guards their women from them, but don't really care about the men. It doesn't matter how many women of other races your men go out and have sex with, the women back at home are all still having kids of their own race.
That's why it was, "kill the men of the enemy tribe and take their women!!!" it's not, "kill the women and take the men to have sex with our women!!!" basic socioevolution/biology. So a man going out and having kids with nonwhite women would be making the world more white and spreading whiteness because you have: all the white women back at home having fully white kids+nonwhite women having half whites kids=1.5x as many white genes, so evolutionarily you are advancing. Likewise if the other tribe, say africans did the reverse, there would be all the african women having black kids+the white women having them, so the blacks would be advancing in evolutionary terms.
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BlutWieEisen said:
My best guess as to why NTR is so controversial is because of how visceral it is. People have their waifus/husbandos that are comfort characters to them, so they develop a bond with them and the universes they're from.
Then an NTR concept breaks that comfort in a hardcore way and it's both upsetting as well as really intense. You can't really softcore it, after all. So it makes sense that a lot of people have an adverse reaction to it, can't really fault them for that.
Kink is kink, and as someone that enjoys NTR myself (fuck, most of my edits are implied NTR) I don't feel like a worse person for it. Taboo kink =/= condoning irl, after all.
I mean i've said it in the original post but i'll say it again the main thing I can't wrap my head around is why people in the bleached community are so against it - even if you don't agree that NTR is a core part of bleached ( which it is ) it's at least NTR ajaccent yet the community acts like it's the ultimate evil ( inspite of the fact a good quarter of said community unironically think hitler did nothing wrong )
IvoryFutaIII said:
I mean i've said it in the original post but i'll say it again the main thing I can't wrap my head around is why people in the bleached community are so against it - even if you don't agree that NTR is a core part of bleached ( which it is ) it's at least NTR ajaccent yet the community acts like it's the ultimate evil ( inspite of the fact a good quarter of said community unironically think hitler did nothing wrong )
You answered your own question though, if people of bleached think hitler did nothing wrong, what are hitler/nazis views on cuckouldry? Obviously since a large portion of this community are more conservative, they would value fidelity highly, just as the nazis and other traditionalist groups do.
More importantly, why does it matter? If you like NTR, i dont see why it's so important to get nazi sympathizers and the like to also agree with NTR. It's not like this site bans NTR so you dont need to convince anyone to allow it.
fkiblaze said:
You answered your own question though, if people of bleached think hitler did nothing wrong, what are hitler/nazis views on cuckouldry? Obviously since a large portion of this community are more conservative, they would value fidelity highly, just as the nazis and other traditionalist groups do.
More importantly, why does it matter? If you like NTR, i dont see why it's so important to get nazi sympathizers and the like to also agree with NTR. It's not like this site bans NTR so you dont need to convince anyone to allow it.
I don’t what his issue is. It’s a weird way to look at the world when you believe that when one person succeeds that must mean another person is failing because of that. For hypothetical example, say a white guy is just living life with his friends, they’re a mix of whites and other races like blacks and Asians and whatever, that’s cool, but then the white guy gets an Asian or black gf. This doesn’t mean his friends who are black/asian are being cucked racially, and that the white guy intended to take away some girl of another race because he gets off on the idea of cucking his friends. People can just naturally get together and all parties involved can take away something from events and circumstances, it’s NOT a zero sum game. People who think in terms of ‘zero sum’ might as well be mask of marxists imo
Edit: I forgot to expand my thoughts, basically just because this fetish deals in general white male glorification and often features white men with a myriad of non-white women, this does not necessarily mean or imply that it’s done for the purposes of racially cucking non-white men or stealing away other races’ women, because intimacy and love (bleached) is not really about hatred and resentment which is the kind of impression I get from say Blacked content, where it’s more implicitly perceived that the porn is there mainly to put down white men and steal white women. Colonisation is a little different because again it’s not done out of hatred or resentment, you can’t really resent a conquered people you’ve subjugated, it’s simply analysis, opportunity and the nature of women to seek out the stronger healthier more stable men to reproduce with, so giving it up to colonisers/conquerers is simply human nature which is neutral at its core.
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Why yes @IvoryFuta-II, I am cucking men by havong sex with women. I am stealing from Walmart by growing my own tomatos, and am engaging in interstate commerce.
Such contorted definitions, and extraneous auxiliary hypotheses. Bleached is simply white males singly benefit. From supremacy to fetishism, to even genestealing: White men are the prize. White women are decorations for white supremacy, in much the same way they are decoarations for society: Who do you think implements such aspirations or tge laws by which society operate?
It is funny that your examples is what I said prior: It is minkrities and women making it weird. See the threads of best uploads, and ideal women: It's white men being goo goo ga ga over unadorned and wholesome women.