Why no NTR?

LatinaOfHearts said:

Talking to a therapist definitely will help with any problems you may have, it's essentially the whole reason why the profession exists... And if you get a bad therapist then you still have the other two things I mentioned. Spend less time chasing pussy and spend more time with Christ and you'll feel better. And yes, last time I checked teenage girls still fawn over boys, they still get depressed cause their crush rejected them or they're the only girl in the group without a boyfriend. Adult women still whine about being infertile or not married. Women still desire men and chase after them. So... You think women get Botox, kill themselves in the gym, spend hundreds of thousands of dollars a year on beauty treatments etc. For themselves??? Really?... Everything we do both as men and as women is for the opposite gender. And that "chemistry in your brain" isn't the same as when you reproduce (at least for women) but it's the same as when you get an orgasm. Your body knows you didn't reproduce, your body knows it's not pregnant, you'll still be having periods and your body will know that.

Nah the therapist proffession exists to make medical industry money. The idea that everyone will be helped by therapy is nonsense. There is not only 0 evidence that is the case, but also counter evidence proving that isnt the case. Therapy essentially just helps certain problems for certain people that lack introspection. It's for people that need someone to telk them to clean their room, instead of having the common sense themselves. I know multiple people who have gone to therapy and all of them got nothing out of it. Same deal with my time in therapy for other issues.

As for your point about women, yes that shows my point. But you are missing how i said pretty much every woman gets a relationship. There is a difference between getting sad for a month because the boy you liked wouldnt date you, vs litteraly never dating anyone ever. Also women can be productive members of society regardless of that status because part of their role had been doing tasks for men, like a secretary. Meanwhile no man will feel any investment in society if he thinks thst society is why he cant get a gf, which is why many incels just game and stay at home. As for God, im sure that works for monks, but i know most men dont have the monklike personality even if it's ideal.

This thread changed into something I'm more interested and that's really difficult topic. I guess I can relate to it and to be honest I'm not sure how to get out of this trap. Therapist will never help with this in my opinion and taking some medicine might help or make it worse hard to say. When people say that finding girlfriend or boyfriend is not solution I can't help but scratch my head and be surprised. Isn't this like our kind of ultimate goal? To make children and take care of them then help them become good adults and see them having their own kids? I guess this gives that sense of fulfillment.

I think when you're in healthy relationship with someone you don't really struggle with such things. Maybe even you don't even need kids and just caring for each other, going through life together is just something that makes life good? My low self esteem, being bullied and painfully rejected when I was young blend with some family issues made me human wreck. I'm trying to at least replace part of this possible happiness with internet fun. If you just live life to be alive what is in there for you? I'm not really enjoying that much temporally solutions to provide some happiness.

I don't know if this makes me incel, but living life for sake of society, working my ass for government only to get nothing in return makes me feel so fucking sad and completely takes any enjoyment in life. I'm hiding in my shell more and more because I can't see any merits for me to try and get hurt again. This is why I pretty much escaped to internet. Now I only fool myself that maybe if I will get even better education, earn some money, fix my body a bit and probably move to different country things will get better. If not well I know that my thoughts will become very dark.

fkiblaze said:

Nah the therapist proffession exists to make medical industry money. The idea that everyone will be helped by therapy is nonsense. There is not only 0 evidence that is the case, but also counter evidence proving that isnt the case. Therapy essentially just helps certain problems for certain people that lack introspection. It's for people that need someone to telk them to clean their room, instead of having the common sense themselves. I know multiple people who have gone to therapy and all of them got nothing out of it. Same deal with my time in therapy for other issues.

As for your point about women, yes that shows my point. But you are missing how i said pretty much every woman gets a relationship. There is a difference between getting sad for a month because the boy you liked wouldnt date you, vs litteraly never dating anyone ever. Also women can be productive members of society regardless of that status because part of their role had been doing tasks for men, like a secretary. Meanwhile no man will feel any investment in society if he thinks thst society is why he cant get a gf, which is why many incels just game and stay at home. As for God, im sure that works for monks, but i know most men dont have the monklike personality even if it's ideal.

Not everyone will be helped by therapy, I agree with you but most people will. Here's a study that proves it's effective in the treatment of depression. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6998909/
Again, I can see why therapy didn't work for you, seeing as you're pretty stubborn and don't seem open to accepting any other options or opinions aside of your own.

That first part is definitely a lie. Another source so you can see I'm not pulling it out of my ass.
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
"Never-married single men and women are about equally likely to have never been in a relationship (35% and 37%, respectively)."
So the percentage of never dating, never married women is actually higher than mens, kinda funny.
And I'll just ask you another question, who do you think decides beauty guidelines? Or trends? Or how women should behave to attract a partner? (Society, of course) Society chooses everything for us because we're social creatures. Another thing is, women that seem happy are actually amongst some of the loneliest people.
https://theqt.online/is-there-a-loneliness-epidemic-among-women/
Married women, with kids, and male bosses (who you claim are necessary to make a woman productive in society? Or something?) feel excruciatingly lonely, tired and like shadows in their own homes.
Loneliness isn't just a male phenomenon.
Plus, I find it funny how you don't think anything can be resolved through Christ.. I think you should probably log off and go to church, try to pray or read the bible. Everything is possible in Christ, and he'll help you through any problems you may have. (Weren't you the guy who claimed all Jews should convert too? Huh?)

yomihara-exec said:

You have to be the change you want to see in the world.

If referring to how we are in as people: I became less depressed these days using some self improvement methods, sure, I'm not fully happy but it's a head start but unfortunately, my gripe is blocking out stuff, I feel like DNS blockers are close but I need more than that and I remember using ControlD to block stuff but it's under a paywall and sometimes it'll block out services I genuinely need. It's okay but I can make my own if possible. (I need one for Windows).

If it's referring to making your own bleached content: Yeah, I can do that but my major problem is that my art skills are that of a hormonal middle/high schooler drawing in their notebooks and writing skills are that of some person writing fanfictions on Wattpad/Fanfiction dot net (if that's even the right url). Yet again, I've seen artists getting a following because they draw popular fetishes despite having questionable to low quality, it doesn't discourage me but it does anger me because I've seen artists who deserve better but they give artists who do only "hahaha! NTR! Degrading white guy funny!" content even if their art is utter garbage and degrading.

LatinaOfHearts said:

Not everyone will be helped by therapy, I agree with you but most people will. Here's a study that proves it's effective in the treatment of depression. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6998909/
Again, I can see why therapy didn't work for you, seeing as you're pretty stubborn and don't seem open to accepting any other options or opinions aside of your own.

Ive had my opinions change on a lot of things, in fact the opposite of stubborn, and i never said it cant help anyone ever. PTSD and stuff is one example ill agree it can help, but depression caused by actually facts of reality that need to change, vs just wierd psychological quirks is a different thing. You arent going to talk your way out of reality. The best example i can give is if you put ur hand on a stove it doesnt matter how much youve been to a therapist, the pain neurons will still fire and make your hand feel hot. The only way to help that is burn your hand enough times it no longer feels the pain much.

That first part is definitely a lie. Another source so you can see I'm not pulling it out of my ass.
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
"Never-married single men and women are about equally likely to have never been in a relationship (35% and 37%, respectively)."
So the percentage of never dating, never married women is actually higher than mens, kinda funny.

That's not a relevant source. No one was talking about what percent of never married people have been single. We were talking about what percent of all men vs women were. Of course people who cant find partners are more likely to not have had them.

And I'll just ask you another question, who do you think decides beauty guidelines? Or trends? Or how women should behave to attract a partner? (Society, of course) Society chooses everything for us because we're social creatures.

It's 90% biology/genetics. Of that 90%, 75% is probably pure biology, and 25% is the societal effects that biology creates, because society is litteraly just a collection of humans so their biology creates society.

Another thing is, women that seem happy are actually amongst some of the loneliest people.
https://theqt.online/is-there-a-loneliness-epidemic-among-women/
Married women, with kids, and male bosses (who you claim are necessary to make a woman productive in society? Or something?) feel excruciatingly lonely, tired and like shadows in their own homes.
Loneliness isn't just a male phenomenon.

That's my point. Lonelyness effects male happiness way more than women. And no, you got that part backwards. Women can be productive members of society just by having male bossess cause their biology makes them more fine with just taking orders. Men that are not castrated and feel like they are forced into a thing that will keep them single will rebel against that society.

Plus, I find it funny how you don't think anything can be resolved through Christ.. I think you should probably log off and go to church, try to pray or read the bible. Everything is possible in Christ, and he'll help you through any problems you may have. (Weren't you the guy who claimed all Jews should convert too? Huh?)

Once again, you got my statement wrong. I never said nothing will be resolved through christ. I merely said not everything in the physical world will be resolved through christ because humans exist in a fallen state and the world is the domain of the devil. It says in the bible itself these things. If you think being a christian is goimg to make you always successful in earthly things, you are missing the point of the religion. The religion is that the earthly realm is fleeting, only 100 years or so, the soul and heaven is eternal though.

TallWhiteAndHung said:

I don't think men are depressed for not having a girlfriend. Depression in men comes from living a meaningless life devoid of purpose. That's alien from having a girlfriend or not. What's true is that women don't like men that mope around and complain since it's a sign that they cannot provide safety and security, which women value greatly, so depressed men will struggle to find a girlfriend.

Not everyone who is depressed is depressed because they dont have a gf: true

Everyone man who never had a gf will have struggled with depression because of a lack of gf(with the possible exception of true asexuals/aromonatics): also true

These things arent exclusive. Also many men who are depressed have decent jobs and own guns, so the safety and security thing isnt true.

Egors said:

This thread changed into something I'm more interested and that's really difficult topic. I guess I can relate to it and to be honest I'm not sure how to get out of this trap. Therapist will never help with this in my opinion and taking some medicine might help or make it worse hard to say. When people say that finding girlfriend or boyfriend is not solution I can't help but scratch my head and be surprised. Isn't this like our kind of ultimate goal? To make children and take care of them then help them become good adults and see them having their own kids? I guess this gives that sense of fulfillment.

I think when you're in healthy relationship with someone you don't really struggle with such things. Maybe even you don't even need kids and just caring for each other, going through life together is just something that makes life good? My low self esteem, being bullied and painfully rejected when I was young blend with some family issues made me human wreck. I'm trying to at least replace part of this possible happiness with internet fun. If you just live life to be alive what is in there for you? I'm not really enjoying that much temporally solutions to provide some happiness.

I don't know if this makes me incel, but living life for sake of society, working my ass for government only to get nothing in return makes me feel so fucking sad and completely takes any enjoyment in life. I'm hiding in my shell more and more because I can't see any merits for me to try and get hurt again. This is why I pretty much escaped to internet. Now I only fool myself that maybe if I will get even better education, earn some money, fix my body a bit and probably move to different country things will get better. If not well I know that my thoughts will become very dark.

Nah dude there is nothing wrong with your thoughts, what i was trying to explain was that is litteraly how every man in your situation will feel. The people who dont believe it never been in your situation or situations that were like guys i knew that were in your same situation.

That said, i am curious about something because ive seen so many men do it. You said you are tired of working your ass off for the government, and i know many men like that, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why do you guys still work and pay taxes if you get nothing from it? Like im mainly asking those outside of specific areas in the USA because single men cant really get welfare, but unless im wrong, in europe, canada, australia, etc, cant you litteraly just live off welfare if you dont work?

Egors said:

This thread changed into something I'm more interested and that's really difficult topic. I guess I can relate to it and to be honest I'm not sure how to get out of this trap. Therapist will never help with this in my opinion and taking some medicine might help or make it worse hard to say. When people say that finding girlfriend or boyfriend is not solution I can't help but scratch my head and be surprised. Isn't this like our kind of ultimate goal? To make children and take care of them then help them become good adults and see them having their own kids? I guess this gives that sense of fulfillment.

I think when you're in healthy relationship with someone you don't really struggle with such things. Maybe even you don't even need kids and just caring for each other, going through life together is just something that makes life good? My low self esteem, being bullied and painfully rejected when I was young blend with some family issues made me human wreck. I'm trying to at least replace part of this possible happiness with internet fun. If you just live life to be alive what is in there for you? I'm not really enjoying that much temporally solutions to provide some happiness.

I don't know if this makes me incel, but living life for sake of society, working my ass for government only to get nothing in return makes me feel so fucking sad and completely takes any enjoyment in life. I'm hiding in my shell more and more because I can't see any merits for me to try and get hurt again. This is why I pretty much escaped to internet. Now I only fool myself that maybe if I will get even better education, earn some money, fix my body a bit and probably move to different country things will get better. If not well I know that my thoughts will become very dark.

Getting in a healthy relationship certainly can help I think the reason that people say that it's not a solution tho is because it's not a solution alone. When you look to another person for a solution to your problem that immediatly puts a lot of weight on that one person. Not to mention that your issues won't really go away they will just manifest in different ways that will put a strain on that relationship. Too often you see guys that think like you do that end up in really unhealthy relationships because they expect their gf to "fix it".

Not to mention that seeing a full other human being that you want to live out the rest of your days as a solution is a weird thing to do to someone. In your case you do seem to know that you do need to do some work on things which is good but also you are getting really personal for a raceplay porn forum. You should be careful opening up like that in a public space filled with strangers

Nordic_redhaired_Bvll said:

Getting in a healthy relationship certainly can help I think the reason that people say that it's not a solution tho is because it's not a solution alone. When you look to another person for a solution to your problem that immediatly puts a lot of weight on that one person. Not to mention that your issues won't really go away they will just manifest in different ways that will put a strain on that relationship. Too often you see guys that think like you do that end up in really unhealthy relationships because they expect their gf to "fix it".

Not to mention that seeing a full other human being that you want to live out the rest of your days as a solution is a weird thing to do to someone. In your case you do seem to know that you do need to do some work on things which is good but also you are getting really personal for a raceplay porn forum. You should be careful opening up like that in a public space filled with strangers

I mean this is the common line people say and on the surface it's fair and balanced, but really it just all comes down to getting a gf that likes you and you like. Take for example losing weight, going to a gym, going out more in public. These are good things to do, but why? Because they all help you get a gf. If you ever just say "go out in public" but never meet anyone it not only doesnt help, but makes thing worse, because you just feel like no one cares about you as you stand around by yourself day after day. Even something like getting a job, yea that's good, because youre going to have a harder time getting a gf as a broke unemployed loser, but if you just have the job itself, most people dont really enjoy their own job for itself. You enjoy the money and status (and the status just means other people see you better hence related to a gf and why men are programmed to like status)

Egors said:

This thread changed into something I'm more interested and that's really difficult topic. I guess I can relate to it and to be honest I'm not sure how to get out of this trap. Therapist will never help with this in my opinion and taking some medicine might help or make it worse hard to say. When people say that finding girlfriend or boyfriend is not solution I can't help but scratch my head and be surprised. Isn't this like our kind of ultimate goal? To make children and take care of them then help them become good adults and see them having their own kids? I guess this gives that sense of fulfillment.

I think when you're in healthy relationship with someone you don't really struggle with such things. Maybe even you don't even need kids and just caring for each other, going through life together is just something that makes life good? My low self esteem, being bullied and painfully rejected when I was young blend with some family issues made me human wreck. I'm trying to at least replace part of this possible happiness with internet fun. If you just live life to be alive what is in there for you? I'm not really enjoying that much temporally solutions to provide some happiness.

I don't know if this makes me incel, but living life for sake of society, working my ass for government only to get nothing in return makes me feel so fucking sad and completely takes any enjoyment in life. I'm hiding in my shell more and more because I can't see any merits for me to try and get hurt again. This is why I pretty much escaped to internet. Now I only fool myself that maybe if I will get even better education, earn some money, fix my body a bit and probably move to different country things will get better. If not well I know that my thoughts will become very dark.

Threads will often change topics because a lot of people were interested in them for a few days then they'll just abandon it or change the topics.
Honestly, it's best not to identify as incel/femcel like LatinaOfHearts said because it shouldn't be your personality and it's a very depressing path that can lead to ultradepression aka being a doomer/ette. I almost went fully down that path because I used to browse incel forums and it didn't do much but make me feel bad and angry, I stopped browsing them but I technically still have that mindset to an extent, I just need to fully get rid of it and put my head up. Therapies weren't good because they never gave me solutions and most of those solutions are impossible to achieve due to time and whatnot but drinking some teas, playing video games, and finding new interests did certainly help more, therapies won't work for everyone but self improvement can help.

Oh yeah, about what LatinaOfHearts about the whole girls fonding over guys thing: I still see straight couples and straight porn where the guy's dominating, I don't really get the idea of people panicking that there's no more straight porn so they made maledom, sure I get it that some girls are into it and misogyny roleplay but dude, I still see straight porn next to lesbian.

Man.. can you guys just stop focusing on getting a girlfriend. That's actually why y'all aren't getting laid, no personality aside from "I want a girlfriend" and doing things solely because you want to get laid isn't a good strategy. You shouldn't wait to do stuff until you get rewarded with sex for it.

fkiblaze said:

I mean this is the common line people say and on the surface it's fair and balanced, but really it just all comes down to getting a gf that likes you and you like. Take for example losing weight, going to a gym, going out more in public. These are good things to do, but why? Because they all help you get a gf. If you ever just say "go out in public" but never meet anyone it not only doesnt help, but makes thing worse, because you just feel like no one cares about you as you stand around by yourself day after day. Even something like getting a job, yea that's good, because youre going to have a harder time getting a gf as a broke unemployed loser, but if you just have the job itself, most people dont really enjoy their own job for itself. You enjoy the money and status (and the status just means other people see you better hence related to a gf and why men are programmed to like status)

I think it's common for a reason but a lot of people also get kind of lost in that kind of advice. I don't really think it's as simple as finding someone that likes you and that likes you back. As I said when you have issues you will drag those issues along with you into a relationship, they do not all just go away just because you found the right person. You need to constantly introspect about stuff like this and recognize your own thought patterns.

I didn't really get it across in my first post but a lot of self improvement really is skin deep. Like getting a job and a fitter body do not really touch upon the underlying issues one might carry from their past traumas. Fixing that is what I am primarily talking about. You can work through this with a partner but ideally the "pre-work" should be done when you are single.

I guess it's the difference between getting someone to buy a car vs getting them to keep it. If the exterior looks decent and the guy that sells it is charismatic it will be sold quickly but if it breaks down after a few miles because it has a bunch of problems under the hood it won't really be kept around. and it will probably be in a worse state afterwards too.

But also I won't pretend that this advice is perfect. When you are single it can be hard to realize why you need to do this kind of work since you have not yet fully realized how it can push people away. Also when you are single and alone it can be hard to really get in the headspace you need to grow as a person since you tend to only focus on base survival in a way and you don't really get the energy or support to do it.

It takes both a good support network and constant introspection. I just take issue with when people say that a gf is the solution alone. I have seen that mindset play out in real time and it almost never works. The only real solution is constant work

Nordic_redhaired_Bvll said:

Getting in a healthy relationship certainly can help I think the reason that people say that it's not a solution tho is because it's not a solution alone. When you look to another person for a solution to your problem that immediatly puts a lot of weight on that one person. Not to mention that your issues won't really go away they will just manifest in different ways that will put a strain on that relationship. Too often you see guys that think like you do that end up in really unhealthy relationships because they expect their gf to "fix it".

Not to mention that seeing a full other human being that you want to live out the rest of your days as a solution is a weird thing to do to someone. In your case you do seem to know that you do need to do some work on things which is good but also you are getting really personal for a raceplay porn forum. You should be careful opening up like that in a public space filled with strangers

Well this is kind of why I'm doing it because I can open up to strangers, because I have no one left. I can't show being vulnerable to people around me and that they know me. Everyone everyday wear mask of everything is fine and life keeps going on. Sure just finding partner is not a solution, but from what I have seen is huge help that you might need. That one special person who truly cares for you, who will cherish your success and not just be envy and wait for your lose to be happy about it. I feel like majority of people are like that right now and here things will get even worse. Lots of people are getting jobless it will be harder to find job and keep it. My country will struggle a lot because of incompetent fools taking over it. I don't need someone to fix my life, I want to fix it because I would have someone special who would make this worth doing it...

LatinaOfHearts said:

Man.. can you guys just stop focusing on getting a girlfriend. That's actually why y'all aren't getting laid, no personality aside from "I want a girlfriend" and doing things solely because you want to get laid isn't a good strategy. You shouldn't wait to do stuff until you get rewarded with sex for it.

I dont always like to pull the card, but ill do it here since yet another person stated they were like that. As a woman, you probably shouldnt talk about something you wont be able to experience, even more so when litteraly there is no third hand experience you can refrence. Litteraly every man on this site that never had a gf will say the exact same thing as the guys above that dealt with it, and so will every guy who isnt on this site that dealt with it.

And if anything they probably focus on getting a gf less than the chads that have them do. Every successful man ive seen with women always talks about how he goes out chasing tail or what not, or all the girls he dated and banged. It's litteraly just what men do. That doesnt mean it's their only personality.

fkiblaze said:

Nah dude there is nothing wrong with your thoughts, what i was trying to explain was that is litteraly how every man in your situation will feel. The people who dont believe it never been in your situation or situations that were like guys i knew that were in your same situation.

That said, i am curious about something because ive seen so many men do it. You said you are tired of working your ass off for the government, and i know many men like that, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why do you guys still work and pay taxes if you get nothing from it? Like im mainly asking those outside of specific areas in the USA because single men cant really get welfare, but unless im wrong, in europe, canada, australia, etc, cant you litteraly just live off welfare if you dont work?

I'm from Poland. I earned enough money to take break from working and focus on studying. I'm trying to get master's degree currently and I don't know what's next. Because of current government trying to live from something like welfare will be impossible soon. Prices of everything will sky rocket and we will have most expensive stuff in whole EU. I have no plans for future other than trying to leave this country and live somewhere else. I'd like to earn good money, be able to buy house without taking 30 year loan which needs two people to pay it over, find woman that is not fooled by lefty propaganda, having kids would be nice but it's not necessary. But yeah I guess in our times this is luxury that not everyone can have.

Nordic_redhaired_Bvll said:

I think it's common for a reason but a lot of people also get kind of lost in that kind of advice. I don't really think it's as simple as finding someone that likes you and that likes you back. As I said when you have issues you will drag those issues along with you into a relationship, they do not all just go away just because you found the right person. You need to constantly introspect about stuff like this and recognize your own thought patterns.

I didn't really get it across in my first post but a lot of self improvement really is skin deep. Like getting a job and a fitter body do not really touch upon the underlying issues one might carry from their past traumas. Fixing that is what I am primarily talking about. You can work through this with a partner but ideally the "pre-work" should be done when you are single.

I guess it's the difference between getting someone to buy a car vs getting them to keep it. If the exterior looks decent and the guy that sells it is charismatic it will be sold quickly but if it breaks down after a few miles because it has a bunch of problems under the hood it won't really be kept around. and it will probably be in a worse state afterwards too.

But also I won't pretend that this advice is perfect. When you are single it can be hard to realize why you need to do this kind of work since you have not yet fully realized how it can push people away. Also when you are single and alone it can be hard to really get in the headspace you need to grow as a person since you tend to only focus on base survival in a way and you don't really get the energy or support to do it.

It takes both a good support network and constant introspection. I just take issue with when people say that a gf is the solution alone. I have seen that mindset play out in real time and it almost never works. The only real solution is constant work

One again that is common and a fair thing to say, but the thing is though, practicaly everyone has issues. Almost no relationship is perfect, so that isn't really an excuse. there are litteraly murders, people who beat women every time they get mad at their gf, rapists, and so on that all manage to get relationships, marriages and kids and do fine. "Issues" arent actually a problem in normie life to be successful. Pretty much every succesful person in modern society anyway is a psychopathic machevelian.

Yes getting a gf doesnt always help, but only because they will still have the issues that caused them not to have a gf, and the girl will get fed up with him and leave or no longer love him.

This mentality may have been true in the past, but the reality of modern society isnt some lighthearted fantasy. You can litteraly do everything morally wrong and still fall upwards. Look at any shitty corrupt politician. The most effective way to be successful is to be a ruthless ambitious psychopath, baring that the best you can be is just an unthinking normie. That is, if you care more about worldly success than your soul, but i wouldnt recommend that to anyone because as the bible says, "what does it profit a man to gain the world but lose his soul?"

Nigger shit, tbh

somebleacheduser said:

Threads will often change topics because a lot of people were interested in them for a few days then they'll just abandon it or change the topics.
Honestly, it's best not to identify as incel/femcel like LatinaOfHearts said because it shouldn't be your personality and it's a very depressing path that can lead to ultradepression aka being a doomer/ette. I almost went fully down that path because I used to browse incel forums and it didn't do much but make me feel bad and angry, I stopped browsing them but I technically still have that mindset to an extent, I just need to fully get rid of it and put my head up. Therapies weren't good because they never gave me solutions and most of those solutions are impossible to achieve due to time and whatnot but drinking some teas, playing video games, and finding new interests did certainly help more, therapies won't work for everyone but self improvement can help.

Oh yeah, about what LatinaOfHearts about the whole girls fonding over guys thing: I still see straight couples and straight porn where the guy's dominating, I don't really get the idea of people panicking that there's no more straight porn so they made maledom, sure I get it that some girls are into it and misogyny roleplay but dude, I still see straight porn next to lesbian.

I don't really identify with such people, but others are quickly to judge and call you that once you show more traditional approach to things that currently happen on world. I mean I could hide behind this whole incel thing though this leads to nothing. I can blame one girl from my past for what happens with me now, but it's just me and her other woman have nothing with this.

Egors said:

I'm from Poland. I earned enough money to take break from working and focus on studying. I'm trying to get master's degree currently and I don't know what's next. Because of current government trying to live from something like welfare will be impossible soon. Prices of everything will sky rocket and we will have most expensive stuff in whole EU. I have no plans for future other than trying to leave this country and live somewhere else. I'd like to earn good money, be able to buy house without taking 30 year loan which needs two people to pay it over, find woman that is not fooled by lefty propaganda, having kids would be nice but it's not necessary. But yeah I guess in our times this is luxury that not everyone can have.

Im a bit confused, i thought poland was doing better than most of western europe in that regard. I know recently they started accepting immigrants but they are still a couple decades behind the rest of the west.

fkiblaze said:

Im a bit confused, i thought poland was doing better than most of western europe in that regard. I know recently they started accepting immigrants but they are still a couple decades behind the rest of the west.

We kind of were doing that slowly improving, but since last year December our government changed. Now everything started to be fucked up. Our economy is going to be fucked up so Germany will have no rivalry with us. Current government is accepting everything EU wants to do and pretty much they want us to become Germany colony where they will send lots of illegal migrants. So even if we got lots of people coming from Ukraine we will get fair share of EU problems. Everything depends how much this government can ruin this country in like next around 3 years and if people will change them. I mean we were like couple decades behind west and we will catch up to them very quickly lots of young people are liberal and they don't understand what comes with this. Most of Western Europe slowly wakes up and try to change their governments to something more right wing. While we're catching up and people choose lefties. I should not dive deep into talking about this, but trust me as someone who live here it's awful and will be even worse. Those who will be able to will try to escape from country asap. Also it's possible our wise government will try to make us join current war on Ukraine side which would be insanely stupid, but who knows with them everything is possible. So I'd like to finish my studies and hopefully escape from country in time. Sorry to bring politics here, but yeah without this I could not explain my country situation how bad it is.