White Birth Rate Talk

I honestly wish people would quit thinking this is some issue or big deal, like Elon or any prominent right wing host. Mass immigration is bad yes, and it is the sole reason for the decreasing white portion of countries. You cant expect whites to just outbreed all the browns because we are more K-selected other than maybe the east asians. Birth rates also dont just stay one way either, it's basic evolution. As for social security, worse case scenario it just becomes funded like another welfare system instead of pension system, ie medicare just becomes like medicaid, stop pretending it will somehow destroy civilization. If anything maybe it will make our countries more free market when it runs out, but most likely like i said it will just be funded like any of the other welfare systems we have, IE just income taxes not a separate social security fund.

Also people need to stop pretending immigration has anything to do with it. The immigrants are net tax consumers, not tax payers, they make the problem of government spending worse. They elites aren't importing them for social security, they are importing them to replace whites and for cheap subsidized labor. The taxpayer pays their welfare so the corporation can charge them below livable wages and keep the excess profits. Other than that it's just because the people in power don't like whites for various reasons. There is no such thing as "labor shortage" either. We have far more population now than before the industrial revolution where literally everything had to be done by people. As AI, industry, and job replacing machinery has increased so has the population, there is no logical reason to say we have a labor shortage when we need less workers than ever now but have more worker than ever. Low wage companies like fast food might be struggling to hire people, but that only because no one actually wants or needs to work there, partly because welfare or living off their parents is just better and partly because the market is saturated with fast food companies, we don't need any more fast food workers, no one is having problems getting a cheeseburger if anything they are eating too much fast food.

If anyone here happens to have some sort of establishment connections tell all the e-celebs on the right to quit making these insanely dumb points. It's been years now, move the conversation from this nonsense.

fkiblaze said:

Also people need to stop pretending immigration has anything to do with it. The immigrants are net tax consumers, not tax payers, they make the problem of government spending worse. They elites aren't importing them for social security, they are importing them to replace whites and for cheap subsidized labor. The taxpayer pays their welfare so the corporation can charge them below livable wages and keep the excess profits. Other than that it's just because the people in power don't like whites for various reasons. There is no such thing as "labor shortage" either. We have far more population now than before the industrial revolution where literally everything had to be done by people. As AI, industry, and job replacing machinery has increased so has the population, there is no logical reason to say we have a labor shortage when we need less workers than ever now but have more worker than ever. Low wage companies like fast food might be struggling to hire people, but that only because no one actually wants or needs to work there, partly because welfare or living off their parents is just better and partly because the market is saturated with fast food companies, we don't need any more fast food workers, no one is having problems getting a cheeseburger if anything they are eating too much fast food.

If anyone here happens to have some sort of establishment connections tell all the e-celebs on the right to quit making these insanely dumb points. It's been years now, move the conversation from this nonsense.

I’m confused by this second post. Are you saying that it IS their intention to replace the white population but it won’t work? I can certainly believe that, but that doesn’t make it any less painful for white people.

Good, our people will live on, but right now we have to deal with Marxist subversion, criminals running free, rioting whenever another black guy dies during an arrest and the media makes it seem like an injustice, DEI purposely hiring less qualified people which will both make their services worse and give a bad name to the groups being hired, black nationalism and supremacy is gaining traction with many of them purposely raping white women to get them pregnant to reduce the white population. All the while we’re forced to pretend this shit isn’t happening or isn’t a big deal both by dishonest leftists and out of touch centrists. Just look at what’s happening in the UK. I don’t care that the English identity will survive, it’s still infuriating what’s being allowed to happen to them by their traitorous government and they’re not even allowed to say anything about it, much less DO anything about it.

It’s ironic that everyone uses the “minority” or “marginalized” label to justify the coddling of other races, when whites are globally the minority AND marginalized. What other race isn’t allowed to have their own identity, homeland and culture? The Africans have theirs, the Asians, the Latinos, even the American Indians.

TheWhiteMan said:

I’m confused by this second post. Are you saying that it IS their intention to replace the white population but it won’t work? I can certainly believe that, but that doesn’t make it any less painful for white people.

Good, our people will live on, but right now we have to deal with Marxist subversion, criminals running free, rioting whenever another black guy dies during an arrest and the media makes it seem like an injustice, DEI purposely hiring less qualified people which will both make their services worse and give a bad name to the groups being hired, black nationalism and supremacy is gaining traction with many of them purposely raping white women to get them pregnant to reduce the white population. All the while we’re forced to pretend this shit isn’t happening or isn’t a big deal both by dishonest leftists and out of touch centrists. Just look at what’s happening in the UK. I don’t care that the English identity will survive, it’s still infuriating what’s being allowed to happen to them by their traitorous government and they’re not even allowed to say anything about it, much less DO anything about it.

It’s ironic that everyone uses the “minority” or “marginalized” label to justify the coddling of other races, when whites are globally the minority AND marginalized. What other race isn’t allowed to have their own identity, homeland and culture? The Africans have theirs, the Asians, the Latinos, even the American Indians.

Marxism considers people as an economic unit, which is why they "depersonalize" people, trying to take away their history and culture from them, in order to leave only economic differences, creating a faceless mass of people without history and culture, which can be used as you like under the pretext of class struggle and avoid a mass uprising on cultural and other grounds . This is why people are shown more and more dark moments of their history, intentionally not showing all the achievements that their nation has achieved in the past, and if they do, they focus on negative facts about these achievements, and all this so that they voluntarily abandon their history and culture. As for me, only a return to one's past can stop this hysteria, just as during the Renaissance, creators and philosophers turned to the Ancient past to rethink it and make something new and more perfect based on it, in the same way we all have to turn to the past and create something new and improve existing ones

How did this turn from "birthrate" to "Marxism" .... Huh

LatinaOfHearts said:

How did this turn from "birthrate" to "Marxism" .... Huh

It's just that Conservatism is opposed to Marxism, and conservatism implies family values, including large families, (although conservatism is not only about this) and Marxism opposes itself to conservative values (although Marxism is rather a generalization here, which implies a commonality of left-wing ideologies ).... I hope you are satisfied with my explanation... Although I may have misunderstood your comment (lately I have practically stopped sarcasm and irony >_<), so please do not judge me strictly from this :)

Ban immigration ban feminism increase Christianity then birth rates increase also get rid of jews since they caused this stuff

Reichist said:

Ban immigration ban feminism increase Christianity then birth rates increase also get rid of jews since they caused this stuff

Increasing any sect of Christianity other than Catholicism will still bring problems.

KarcH said:

Marxism considers people as an economic unit, which is why they "depersonalize" people, trying to take away their history and culture from them, in order to leave only economic differences, creating a faceless mass of people without history and culture, which can be used as you like under the pretext of class struggle and avoid a mass uprising on cultural and other grounds . This is why people are shown more and more dark moments of their history, intentionally not showing all the achievements that their nation has achieved in the past, and if they do, they focus on negative facts about these achievements, and all this so that they voluntarily abandon their history and culture. As for me, only a return to one's past can stop this hysteria, just as during the Renaissance, creators and philosophers turned to the Ancient past to rethink it and make something new and more perfect based on it, in the same way we all have to turn to the past and create something new and improve existing ones

That’s what I mean. Marxism means nothing more than subverting a culture from the inside out by mobilizing victim classes against the classes with the most “Capital”. Of course that sounds conspiratorial to most people but just pay attention and it’s happening in broad daylight. Not just with race, but that’s the one most relevant to this discussion.

LatinaOfHearts said:

How did this turn from "birthrate" to "Marxism" .... Huh

All I did was bring it up as something that is harming us.

TheWhiteMan said:

I’m confused by this second post. Are you saying that it IS their intention to replace the white population but it won’t work? I can certainly believe that, but that doesn’t make it any less painful for white people.

Good, our people will live on, but right now we have to deal with Marxist subversion, criminals running free, rioting whenever another black guy dies during an arrest and the media makes it seem like an injustice, DEI purposely hiring less qualified people which will both make their services worse and give a bad name to the groups being hired, black nationalism and supremacy is gaining traction with many of them purposely raping white women to get them pregnant to reduce the white population. All the while we’re forced to pretend this shit isn’t happening or isn’t a big deal both by dishonest leftists and out of touch centrists. Just look at what’s happening in the UK. I don’t care that the English identity will survive, it’s still infuriating what’s being allowed to happen to them by their traitorous government and they’re not even allowed to say anything about it, much less DO anything about it.

It’s ironic that everyone uses the “minority” or “marginalized” label to justify the coddling of other races, when whites are globally the minority AND marginalized. What other race isn’t allowed to have their own identity, homeland and culture? The Africans have theirs, the Asians, the Latinos, even the American Indians.

well no, it's their intention to replace whites and it can work. i was just saying the birth rates arent the reason.

LatinaOfHearts said:

Increasing any sect of Christianity other than Catholicism will still bring problems.

Nah, Protestantism and orthodox are both far more conservative in terms of political support. Catholics tend to be more left wing statistically

fkiblaze said:

Nah, Protestantism and orthodox are both far more conservative in terms of political support. Catholics tend to be more left wing statistically

If you're going to be be a Christian and follow the bible properly you can't
1) remove 7 books out of it
2) allow women to become priests and stray away from the original beliefs.
Just because we want to be conservative doesn't mean we should bow down to false prophets.
Also, found these pretty cool statistics I remember hearing about a while back..
https://www.pewresearch.org/religious-landscape-study/database/religious-tradition/catholic/political-ideology/

Oh also, I just read the first two posts of this thread.
1) yes, there's is a labor problem. Not a shortage, but a lack of willing workers. As of now 7.2 million men are (willingly) unemployed and living off of their parents. There IS an issue in the labor market, just not a shortage.
https://www.businessinsider.com/men-not-working-unemployment-job-market-economy-housing-social-security-2024-6?amp
2) illegal migrants (at least in the USA) DO pay taxes, they pay quite a nice penny too. The people that consume the most taxpayer money are blacks, not illegal migrants (usually Latino or Asian)
https://pozogoldstein.com/undocumented-immigrants-pay-11-6-billion-taxes-every-year-study-shows-2/

TheWhiteMan said:

That’s what I mean. Marxism means nothing more than subverting a culture from the inside out by mobilizing victim classes against the classes with the most “Capital”. Of course that sounds conspiratorial to most people but just pay attention and it’s happening in broad daylight. Not just with race, but that’s the one most relevant to this discussion.

All I did was bring it up as something that is harming us.

I agree, Marxism is just terrible, after going through the history of Russia in the 20th century , I decided to ask what Lenin did so well... Let's be honest, it was a complete horror, practically Sodomy, the legalization of same-sex relationships and everything like that that we can see now in most Western countries, it's good that he died quickly and Stalin took his place, in fact he was a right- wing , not a left-wing politician , it was with him that all the obscurantism that Lenin brought was abolished Although Stalin was cruel , he knew for sure that the ideas brought by Marxism would completely destroy Russia , and this confrontation can be seen everywhere, in the cinema, it was under Stalin that many patriotic films about Russian history , about Nevsky or Peter the Great, in architecture , the Stalinist Empire still pleases my eyes When I look at these majestic and beautiful buildings , including the abolition of laws harmful to Russia and the legalization of the Orthodox Church , although this does not cancel out all the horrors that occurred because of him , but as for me, he is one of the best rulers of Russia , even in some ways we are similar to Alexander the third .... So yes, Marxism is a degradation of morals ... (Yes, I'm kind of broke up :) )

KarcH said:

I agree, Marxism is just terrible, after going through the history of Russia in the 20th century , I decided to ask what Lenin did so well... Let's be honest, it was a complete horror, practically Sodomy, the legalization of same-sex relationships and everything like that that we can see now in most Western countries, it's good that he died quickly and Stalin took his place, in fact he was a right- wing , not a left-wing politician , it was with him that all the obscurantism that Lenin brought was abolished Although Stalin was cruel , he knew for sure that the ideas brought by Marxism would completely destroy Russia , and this confrontation can be seen everywhere, in the cinema, it was under Stalin that many patriotic films about Russian history , about Nevsky or Peter the Great, in architecture , the Stalinist Empire still pleases my eyes When I look at these majestic and beautiful buildings , including the abolition of laws harmful to Russia and the legalization of the Orthodox Church , although this does not cancel out all the horrors that occurred because of him , but as for me, he is one of the best rulers of Russia , even in some ways we are similar to Alexander the third .... So yes, Marxism is a degradation of morals ... (Yes, I'm kind of broke up :) )

Yeah Stalin may as well have been a leftist fascist that took the reins of communist Russia.

Anyway, Fiki is kinda right that birthrate alarmism is stupid and unproductive as it applies pretty much to any ‘civilised’ nation/society, and we ought to stabilise to a normalcy rate sometime soon after the baby boom. I still think fertility rate is important because it’s separate but related to birth rates. We still need a minimum of 2.1 fertility rate and that can only happen when we get rid of feminism or it gets rid of itself. Either way, I’m not worried cause rural areas and religious communities have higher than replacement level fertility rates, meanwhile literally just leftists get bred out, in urban and secular areas.

We can have threads of this kind of unbridled autism but I can't post my Bleached erotica

AryanSuperSoldier said:

Yeah Stalin may as well have been a leftist fascist that took the reins of communist Russia.

Anyway, Fiki is kinda right that birthrate alarmism is stupid and unproductive as it applies pretty much to any ‘civilised’ nation/society, and we ought to stabilise to a normalcy rate sometime soon after the baby boom. I still think fertility rate is important because it’s separate but related to birth rates. We still need a minimum of 2.1 fertility rate and that can only happen when we get rid of feminism or it gets rid of itself. Either way, I’m not worried cause rural areas and religious communities have higher than replacement level fertility rates, meanwhile literally just leftists get bred out, in urban and secular areas.

The birth rate is not something to worry about, as it is a consequence of a more left-wing ideology, the left ideology will leave, replaced by a more right-wing one, then the birth rate will increase. So it's stupid to worry about the birth rate, it's worth thinking about how to consolidate more conservative ideologies among the population.... Of course, this is not the topic, but I once thought about villages and came to the conclusion that, given current technologies and the active development of digital technologies and robotics, it would be possible to carry out some kind of deurbanization, settling people in villages and small towns where they could lead a more peaceful lifestyle, which would stimulate fertility, and given that the means of cargo delivery can be automated, as well as the fact that a significant part of the professions now do not require presence in the office, and work can be done at home, then the creation of an agglomeration with a large number of rural or near rural settlements located in them, connected by a network of automated transport systems that would accelerate and It would be cheaper to transport goods and people , and the presence of several or more production centers would be quite a logical development for such large countries as the United States , Russia , Brazil and others , so that we could give people a place to live and create families , while not taking away from them the comforts of the modern world . Although this is all futurism, but isn't it possible to dream? :)

Oriflamme said:

We can have threads of this kind of unbridled autism but I can't post my Bleached erotica

Free my mans!

His erotica is good and it's a feature a lot of users on here would like anyway!

Oriflamme said:

We can have threads of this kind of unbridled autism but I can't post my Bleached erotica

And by the way, this is a problem , isn 't that what the site was created for ? It's just weird that you can't do it..... Or is there a reason for this?

KarcH said:

And by the way, this is a problem , isn 't that what the site was created for ? It's just weird that you can't do it..... Or is there a reason for this?

it shouldnt just all be dumped on the forums but it should be another subsection or tab. like how we have posts, comments, forums, etc tabs there should be erotica.

LatinaOfHearts said:

If you're going to be be a Christian and follow the bible properly you can't
1) remove 7 books out of it
2) allow women to become priests and stray away from the original beliefs.
Just because we want to be conservative doesn't mean we should bow down to false prophets.
Also, found these pretty cool statistics I remember hearing about a while back..
https://www.pewresearch.org/religious-landscape-study/database/religious-tradition/catholic/political-ideology/

ok but i dont think women should be priests or so on, like i said, if you want the most original Christianity it's orthodox, and orthodox are the most conservatives, i was just saying WASPs tend to be the second most conservative compared to others. Also your poll doesnt actually show the voting patterns by religion, so you should see that, catholics are democrats, "conservative and moderate" mean different things to different people. Catholics dont support abortion but do support many of the other leftist things.

LatinaOfHearts said:

Oh also, I just read the first two posts of this thread.
1) yes, there's is a labor problem. Not a shortage, but a lack of willing workers. As of now 7.2 million men are (willingly) unemployed and living off of their parents. There IS an issue in the labor market, just not a shortage.
https://www.businessinsider.com/men-not-working-unemployment-job-market-economy-housing-social-security-2024-6?amp
2) illegal migrants (at least in the USA) DO pay taxes, they pay quite a nice penny too. The people that consume the most taxpayer money are blacks, not illegal migrants (usually Latino or Asian)
https://pozogoldstein.com/undocumented-immigrants-pay-11-6-billion-taxes-every-year-study-shows-2/

1) that is true and i mentioned it, but even then it's still not really a problem per say because even with the amount of "not looking for work" people we still have way more workers and automation than in the past.
2) Everyone pays taxes, including blacks, the problem is the amount of money they get back and social services used. Hispanics and illegals both get far more in taxmoney than they pay, not as much as blacks but still way more than they pay so are net tax consumers. Illegals get $135 billion but only pay $19 billion, so are a negative of over $100 billion a year and that was before this massive surge of biden. https://archive.ph/5JoZa