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Obviously you shouldn't listen to it just because it's white but is anyone here an avid classical and opera lover or play a classical instrument? I know it's pretty on the nose here to say I love Wagner but Puccini and verismo in general is so good too. I can't get enough of the typical Romantic symphony either.
itsoktobewhiteisback said:
I like to learn how to appreciate classical music but I wouldn't know where to begin. Debussy's easy to listen to.
Impressionism is really easy to listen to and a good place to start if you're already familiar with it. Debussy and Ravel are both very good.
evolutionary_8044 said:
Beethoven is the best music ever.
From the Heroic powers of the Eroica Symphony to the glorious innovations of the Ode to JoyOn the other hand, not gonna deny. Puccini is one of the musicians whose work leaves me speechless! Especially the beautiful aria Nessun Dorma
I prefer "Un bel di vedremo" from Madama Butterfly, especially in context. One of the best but most tragic bleached stories.
Oriflamme said:
I prefer "Un bel di vedremo" from Madama Butterfly, especially in context. One of the best but most tragic bleached stories.
Indeed.
Of course if you wish for Bleached music outside of Hitler’s playlist (which includes some pretty metal artists) Impressionism and Romanticism are indeed good eras to find Bleached-aligned music. Particularly when tied to the practice of exoticism, like Debussy’s “Pagodes” or Rimsky-Korsakov’s “Scheherazade”
evolutionary_8044 said:
Indeed.
Of course if you wish for Bleached music outside of Hitler’s playlist (which includes some pretty metal artists) Impressionism and Romanticism are indeed good eras to find Bleached-aligned music. Particularly when tied to the practice of exoticism, like Debussy’s “Pagodes” or Rimsky-Korsakov’s “Scheherazade”
Those are indeed great examples of exoticism and orientalism with the opening of Asia in that glorious latter half of the 19th century and Russian nationalism highlighting its Eastern influences and territorial bounds. I do however keep the hierarchy of classical's merits to primarily being the most beautiful of all both in sacred and secular music, then it being uniquely white and western, and then its ability to "bleach" other forms of music like eastern classical as well as being the primary form of music non-white people acknowledge as superior i.e. Asians obsessively studying it to be "elite"
Aryan said:
The white mans music you mean Horst-Wessel-Lied? I actually play violin and appreciate classical music particularly Wagner tho I prefer some good old fashioned Prussian marching music.
I was in this phase like 10 years ago. I love romanticism above all, but one of the periods I love most is the Mannheim School. I wish their stuff would be recorded by groups that don't do HIP exclusively.
Oriflamme said:
Obviously you shouldn't listen to it just because it's white but is anyone here an avid classical and opera lover or play a classical instrument? I know it's pretty on the nose here to say I love Wagner but Puccini and verismo in general is so good too. I can't get enough of the typical Romantic symphony either.
I play double bass and am classically trained. You can't get much better than beethoven, honestly. But if I were to think of good non-german composers I'd say prokofiev, grieg, shostakovich, berlioz, Ravel, and Chopin are excellent in their own ways. You get a nice broad range with just those.
Oriflamme said:
Listening to a lot of Bruckner and Mahler again lately but also Schumann, Mendelssohn, and Schubert. That hyper-romantic massive world of sound with the former and the academically perfect melodies and techniques of the late classical/early romantic transition.
Oh yeah, Romanticism has the best and most beautiful of music.
Beethoven, Wagner, Puccini, Liszt, Tchaikovsky and so many more
Hell, music today was modeled after was the former musician did to push the musical boundaries
evolutionary_8044 said:
Oh yeah, Romanticism has the best and most beautiful of music.
Beethoven, Wagner, Puccini, Liszt, Tchaikovsky and so many more
Hell, music today was modeled after was the former musician did to push the musical boundaries
And Beethoven himself wasn’t even Romantic. He just got attached to the movement because of his revolutionary advancements. He considered himself as a Classicalist really, even though he was the herald of the New Order while his mentors (Mozart and Haydn among others) championed the old one
Oriflamme said:
Listening to a lot of Bruckner and Mahler again lately but also Schumann, Mendelssohn, and Schubert. That hyper-romantic massive world of sound with the former and the academically perfect melodies and techniques of the late classical/early romantic transition.
Also, funny how you grouped those musicians like that when both were on the opposite sides of the War of the Romantics, excluding Schubert
Bruckner and Mahler were Wagnerians, with Bruckner being a personal friend of the eponymous musician.
Meanwhile the Schumanns were avid musical conservatives and opponents of the New German School. Meanwhile, while Mendelssohn wasn’t alive when said war was in play, he did found the Leipzig Conservatory, which was the biggest champion of the old order aside from Robert and Clara Schumann
Another piece of the White Man’s music that either I’m appalled that hasn’t been mentioned yet or was certain until now needed little introduction. Maybe both.
Anywho, the greatest and most important music of all time!
Beethoven’s 3rd Symphony: the Eroica
Aside from being delightfully unpredictable for its time period and explosive even til this day, the premier of this singular work of music was, according to researchers, what started the shift from the old form of classical theater to the etiquette observed in contemporary times. Basically, this symphony single-handedly is the reason why orchestral concert music is what it is today!
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