Frustrations I have around the bleached/bwc fetish community. Wondering if anyone else shares this?

LatinaOfHearts said:

I mean.. I know I'll probably be shooting myself in the foot here but if white women keep having kids with black men and white men keep having kids with black/asian/latina girls the white race will definitely suffer.. as much as I'd love to have a white husband with a white family I don't think that'd be the best idea

The first part is the key. If white women keep having kids with nonwhites, sure. It doesnt really matter what white men do however. Fortunately, the supermajority of white women still just have kids with white men. The birth stuff isn't what is changing the demographics, it's immigration. Interracial birth rates dont change demographics that much in reality.

fkiblaze said:

The first part is the key. If white women keep having kids with nonwhites, sure. It doesnt really matter what white men do however. Fortunately, the supermajority of white women still just have kids with white men. The birth stuff isn't what is changing the demographics, it's immigration. Interracial birth rates dont change demographics that much in reality.

Human genetic modification is, unless some cataclysmic event occurs, almost inevitable.
People will spend money and travel the world to ensure their offspring have better health, fairer looks, sharper minds, and an ideal phenotype.
A whiter future is coming simply because those traits are the most desirable.

yarblharbl said:

Human genetic modification is, unless some cataclysmic event occurs, almost inevitable.
People will spend money and travel the world to ensure their offspring have better health, fairer looks, sharper minds, and an ideal phenotype.
A whiter future is coming simply because those traits are the most desirable.

It's unlikely people will modify their kids to be a different race than themselves en mass for the same reason most people dont adopt. People tend to prefer to have their kids share their own genetics. If you are changing that much of your child's genome, it's functionally no different than just making your wife order sperm from some other guy and then raise that child, so not very common. If all people cared about is statisticly the person they are raising to be the best, they would all just be ordering sperm from 6 foot+ white doctors or engineers and then giving it to their wives, but people dont.

fkiblaze said:

Some of us are trad, porn is just a vice.

Huh, I never knew it worked like that but yet again, when I think of trad: I just think of some guy who doesn't have a phone (Put phone down -Ted K), doesn't have internet, doesn't watch porn, doesn't smoke, and has conservative views that are actually conservative (like wanting to return the nuclear family structure, only 2 genders and sexes the rest are mental illnesses or cognitive defects like intersex or one missing sex hormone, and bring back traditional christianity/Catholicism, etc)

LatinaOfHearts said:

I mean.. I know I'll probably be shooting myself in the foot here but if white women keep having kids with black men and white men keep having kids with black/asian/latina girls the white race will definitely suffer.. as much as I'd love to have a white husband with a white family I don't think that'd be the best idea

Well if you think about it with white men's case, its either sometimes they don't have other options because of region, possible influences there and that they get more attention from ethnic women than their own, maybe dude really likes brown/black pussy, or he believes that white women are no longer fit to be ideal partners/wives. That's when he's conflicting on continuing the white race or want to marry a ethnic woman and hope for the best.

Honestly, how your kids will pass as white depends on how much white do you have -if you're a pure Latina aka native, the kid will come out native but if you're mixed with white, the kid may pass as white-, most latinas from what I've seen are mestizas and if you marry a white guy and have his kids: His kids may pass as white since Mestizos are mixed with white and native (The same thing happened with Brittany Venti because Brittany had a white dad and a black mom but the mom was mixed with white and black since most black Americans are like this)

somebleacheduser said:
Honestly, how your kids will pass as white depends on how much white do you have -if you're a pure Latina aka native, the kid will come out native but if you're mixed with white, the kid may pass as white-, most latinas from what I've seen are mestizas and if you marry a white guy and have his kids: His kids may pass as white since Mestizos are mixed with white and native (The same thing happened with Brittany Venti because Brittany had a white dad and a black mom but the mom was mixed with white and black since most black Americans are like this)

I'm not a native at all, my greatgrandparents and beyond from both sides were Spanish (they might be Sephardic Jews so probably not completely European) and both my grandfathers Italian so I definitely think my children may pass as white but I'm just scared that I'm taking away from the whites more than I'm giving back :(

LatinaOfHearts said:

I'm not a native at all, my greatgrandparents and beyond from both sides were Spanish (they might be Sephardic Jews so probably not completely European) and both my grandfathers Italian so I definitely think my children may pass as white but I'm just scared that I'm taking away from the whites more than I'm giving back :(

Since you said, you're not native and you have Spanish (possibly Sephardic Jewish) great grandparents and both grandfathers' Italian, I think your proximity to whiteness may be high because I'm imagining it: That person can be definitely white passing or looks fully white. If you look like white, I think your kids will be white and you're not doing anything bad to the white race, if anything it benefits because your promixity to whiteness may be high.
Plus there's white guys like Latinas but I don't know what kind because no one specified which: Is it some goth mestiza chick, some mestize chick with curves, butt, and appearance of black women, or maybe white latinas because of close proximity to whiteness but I'm specifically talking about what latinas white men like, not the general population.

somebleacheduser said:

If I remembered correctly, there's girls who are into swirling dunno the demographics but I think theyre usually black girls from Caribbean, Haiti, Africa, and other places like those, there's some western black women in there. Sure, those women aren't going to wear bleached merch (thinking of bleached merch, that sounds dope and should be a thing, expect a thread if allowed) or have bleached tattoos in public but they're out there. But some of them do have to hide it or keep it a secret because they dont want to disappoint their parents (although I find it weird because iirc some black women's/girl's parents try to encourage them to bring home a white guy but all parents are different), stigma, or their men find the woman dating a white guy as a threat and may possibly threaten either the bf, her, or both.

There's this black girl in the bleached space that said that she felt frustrated because people had a problem with her liking white men and her being in bleached spaces, she also said that it's hypocritical for white/nonblack women to enjoy any guy but if a black woman likes white men, they get ostracized and I agree with her frustration and I feel her. It's extremely hypocritical for white and nonblack women to enjoy any fetish they like like the ones you listed and people don't really care yet the second a black woman shows any interest in white men or like bleached, people get pissed and say "bed wrench", "pick-me", etc to the black woman.
The black woman should be free to date the white guy if she likes to without problems and not care about the hater's opinions because it's her life and she can date as many white men as she wants or even go white boys only, no one is in control of her life except herself.

Seriously, we need loud and proud bleached girls who love white men and doesn't care about what haters say. Bonus if she actually wears bleached merch in public, it's optional but it can help the bleached movement.

Quick note: What I meant by bleached merch is like "I love white boys" or something that is worksafe. Add a Queen of Hearts necklace on top and have a heart theme. There's people who are open furries, there's people who wear political slogans, and there's the meme people who wear memes and whatnot, if people are okay with the 3 examples, they should also be okay with girls wearing "I Love White Boys" shirts.

This is fantastic, we need this to push the cultural conversation in the direction we want.

yarblharbl said:

This is fantastic, we need this to push the cultural conversation in the direction we want.

Most girls wouldnt wear a shirt that says “i love white boys” it just seems embarrassing and kind of weird

LatinaWhiteBoyLover204 said:

Most girls wouldnt wear a shirt that says “i love white boys” it just seems embarrassing and kind of weird

I respect your opinion and me and fki did point out that wearing those types of shirts at work/schools will get you fired or reported, even if the place you work at allows people to wear clothes casually or your college's dress code is very liberal. Also you may get mixed opinions in public like people taking it as fetishization or similar.
The only time you can wear it is pretty much at home if you live by yourself or maybe at a friend's place/party if he/she's chill with it.

Note: I should have noted this because most places will not allow anything remotely pro-white like "I Love White Boys" and it's considered racist according to corporate West and the general public.

LatinaWhiteBoyLover204 said:

Most girls wouldnt wear a shirt that says “i love white boys” it just seems embarrassing and kind of weird

Not with that attitude lol

somebleacheduser said:

Huh, I never knew it worked like that but yet again, when I think of trad: I just think of some guy who doesn't have a phone (Put phone down -Ted K), doesn't have internet, doesn't watch porn, doesn't smoke, and has conservative views that are actually conservative (like wanting to return the nuclear family structure, only 2 genders and sexes the rest are mental illnesses or cognitive defects like intersex or one missing sex hormone, and bring back traditional christianity/Catholicism, etc)

Only the second part is the trad stuff. Having conservative views and so on. The not having internet or technology is just primitivist. You can be trad primitivist or libersl primitivist, too.

LatinaOfHearts said:

I'm not a native at all, my greatgrandparents and beyond from both sides were Spanish (they might be Sephardic Jews so probably not completely European) and both my grandfathers Italian so I definitely think my children may pass as white but I'm just scared that I'm taking away from the whites more than I'm giving back :(

Like i said, you arent taking anything away. If anything you are making the country more white since you are having a child whiter than you, rather than more hispanic. All thay matters is white females having kids with white men. The men dont matter for that, just like how most men in human history never reproduced.

LatinaWhiteBoyLover204 said:

Most girls wouldnt wear a shirt that says “i love white boys” it just seems embarrassing and kind of weird

I definitely wouldn't mind it but I think most people would see it as oddly predatory.. which I am, I'm like a cougar for white meat. But still

LatinaOfHearts said:

I definitely wouldn't mind it but I think most people would see it as oddly predatory.. which I am, I'm like a cougar for white meat. But still
[/quote/] I mean i wouldnt mind if someone like my BF wanted me to wear it for him in private

fkiblaze said:

Only the second part is the trad stuff. Having conservative views and so on. The not having internet or technology is just primitivist. You can be trad primitivist or libersl primitivist, too.

Didn't know primitivism is a thing but it's interesting nonetheless. Wonder if Ted K would be considered as such: IIRC the guy had no technology and pretty much was anti-Insdustrial Revolution aka anti-tech from I've heard (I think he only got popular because of his death and memes). I'm imagining liberal primitivist as anti-tech people but still have liberal views particularly that of the environment because tech to them harms it so they say tech bad for environment. I wonder if it's possible to achieve now or no because most people now rely on technology to do stuff that normal humans do.

LatinaOfHearts said:

I definitely wouldn't mind it but I think most people would see it as oddly predatory.. which I am, I'm like a cougar for white meat. But still

That's also the problem with wearing shirts like those outside of possible racism accusations: They may see it as fetishization and creepy depending on who wears it.

• If you got a woman who's 19-25 with a older white partner whos like in their 30s-40s and she wears that shirt: They'll think of it as weird and think of the relationship as predatory despite both being adults but yet again there's power imbalance. IIRC a lot of women used to date older men from what I've heard because of money aka sugar daddies or they were forced into it.
• If you are an older woman let's say mid 20s-30s and youre dating a white guy who's 18-21 and you wear that shirt: People would also think it as predatory and they will think of the "Older ethnic cougar likes younger white men" stereotype/meme when they see it.

Yet again, it's a lot better if you can wear it at parties or at friends since parties do not care, it's all havoc and friends may not care.

LatinaOfHearts said:

I definitely wouldn't mind it but I think most people would see it as oddly predatory.. which I am, I'm like a cougar for white meat. But still

So what phrasing or message do you think would be better?
I'd love to see a merch market and women publicly wearing it in some way.

Part of me thinks that "I Love Vanilla Twinkies" (people will not know the actual meaning because on surface level it's just a reference to the snack when it actually means ethnic girls like skinny white guys) or something very cute/endearing could work but I'm not too sure.

yarblharbl said:

So what phrasing or message do you think would be better?
I'd love to see a merch market and women publicly wearing it in some way.

I think the subtlety of the queen of hearts is amazing. But something like "boys rock" with boys being written in white or "I ❤️ boys" again with boys being written in white would be cool. Again, it's all in the subtlety.

somebleacheduser said:

Part of me thinks that "I Love Vanilla Twinkies" (people will not know the actual meaning because on surface level it's just a reference to the snack when it actually means ethnic girls like skinny white guys) or something very cute/endearing could work but I'm not too sure.

Yeah but what would you do if you don't like twinks. This seems too niche... Plus "vanilla" can be interpreted as just non kinky twinks, not necessarily white

somebleacheduser said:

Didn't know primitivism is a thing but it's interesting nonetheless. Wonder if Ted K would be considered as such: IIRC the guy had no technology and pretty much was anti-Insdustrial Revolution aka anti-tech from I've heard (I think he only got popular because of his death and memes). I'm imagining liberal primitivist as anti-tech people but still have liberal views particularly that of the environment because tech to them harms it so they say tech bad for environment. I wonder if it's possible to achieve now or no because most people now rely on technology to do stuff that normal humans do.

Yea ted k was a primitivist. But no, we cant go back to that with current populations since the industrial revolution is why the world can support much more people. I think they say without any factory or machines, the carrying capacity of the world is only like 2 billion people max.

LatinaOfHearts said:

Yeah but what would you do if you don't like twinks. This seems too niche... Plus "vanilla" can be interpreted as just non kinky twinks, not necessarily white

That's when you have to get very creative with it and make something synonymous with liking white guys. I thought of vanilla twinkie because of RP and it's cute to refer to a white guy but yet again it could be misinterpreted. I'm thinking more for any category of white guy ethnic girls like, there's some ethnic girls who like emos, chubby white dudes, muscular, mature etc

fkiblaze said:

Yea ted k was a primitivist. But no, we cant go back to that with current populations since the industrial revolution is why the world can support much more people. I think they say without any factory or machines, the carrying capacity of the world is only like 2 billion people max.

Fair, without tech, we wouldn't have too much people in the world now which could be good and/or bad depending on how one looks at it. Also most people nowadays can't survive without phones and tech so it's going to be extremely impossible to go back to primivite ways.