Why isn't Bleachbooru and QOH content more popular?

yomihara-exec said:

I think people underestimate the popularity of Bleached, not so much because "white is the default" is actually true but because there are many people who might draw the fetish but don't know that's the name of it, or are aware of the Booru's existence. I have seen over time a lot of artists steadily make Bleached edits or original drawings of their own accord, and while there are many "original" editors and the like I've seen come and go I have also seen plenty of new people join up to fill the gaps.

The niche nature of Bleached has never bothered me, and if more people get into it, great, but I've always thought that instead of fixating on Blacked or trying to "solve" Bleached's perceived problems, you should always just make things instead. Captions, edits, whatever. Making material like that is what helps, not debating whether or not the Nazi tag should be added to the default blacklist or if NTR is "permissible" in the Bleached kink.

One of the big eminent things that got me looking into bleached was the sheer popularity of white male interracial relations IRL without any real fetishization. While IRL, there is a difference between being Bleached and just being in an interracial relationship, in porn all interracial may as well be a varying degree of raceplay at this point. Even on R34 almost every WMXF post without any tatts or branded clothing inevitably has a highly upvoted string of comments of your usual "so and so is just addicted BWC" or "white guys are the only thing she needs" and other rather tame comments. I think it's a matter of actual real life things have not yet been consciously fetishized by porn and aren't allowed to be by the mainstream whereas the very nature of porn is generating appeal from a wild fantasy that seems irresistible to its consumers, therefore always trying to broach the taboo or scandalous from the start i.e. interracial porn in the 70s that we all know just means BMWF.

IRL, I don't care about having underwear carrying bleachbunnies openly boasting about being white only and getting inked up, but rather that the actual preference for white men increases with exclusivity just being a big bonus. In porn I mostly care about carving out just some sort of space where white dudes aren't getting shat on 24/7 and we can have all the underwerar-clad and inked up bunnies going nuts for BWC and saying white is right and such. I don't come here for it, but I don't even care if people want to have political asides in forums or whatever to let their anxieties and autism out either as long as you can keep it separate and not have the front page or comments loaded with jacking off to genocide and killing and torturing non-white people then we ask "why do people hate us? why aren't we popular?"

It’s a pendulum. The more radical and saturated Blacked gets, the more people will get drawn to Bleached. That’s certainly what happened to me. It’s bewildering to me though why people are drawing the line with the nazism. This whole fetish is predicated on white supremacy, and to most normies nazism is nothing more than white supremacy, even though it was a little more complicated than that. So the idea that people would be drawn in by the vibes of “white men are gods” only to get scared of by Nazi imagery is silly to me.

TheWhiteMan said:

It’s a pendulum. The more radical and saturated Blacked gets, the more people will get drawn to Bleached. That’s certainly what happened to me. It’s bewildering to me though why people are drawing the line with the nazism. This whole fetish is predicated on white supremacy, and to most normies nazism is nothing more than white supremacy, even though it was a little more complicated than that. So the idea that people would be drawn in by the vibes of “white men are gods” only to get scared of by Nazi imagery is silly to me.

Uhhhhh because I see and hear it all the time and liking white guys A LOT has never = I <3 Nazism and Nazis

yomihara-exec said:

I think people underestimate the popularity of Bleached, not so much because "white is the default" is actually true but because there are many people who might draw the fetish but don't know that's the name of it, or are aware of the Booru's existence. I have seen over time a lot of artists steadily make Bleached edits or original drawings of their own accord, and while there are many "original" editors and the like I've seen come and go I have also seen plenty of new people join up to fill the gaps.

The niche nature of Bleached has never bothered me, and if more people get into it, great, but I've always thought that instead of fixating on Blacked or trying to "solve" Bleached's perceived problems, you should always just make things instead. Captions, edits, whatever. Making material like that is what helps, not debating whether or not the Nazi tag should be added to the default blacklist or if NTR is "permissible" in the Bleached kink.

Make Hana take an IQ test and post it in the chat I want to know IQ results now. Science has yet to explain how/why some women make dwarf fortress mods and similar content. Also measure the angle and width of her jaw.

Three things

1. It’s a reaction to the synthetic and political popularity of blacked. Blacked is only popular for two reasons, one is that it was started (the company) right when the Ferguson riots started (which was the start of BLM) and the beginning of America’s hyper-obsession with race. Self-hating white liberals love it because it feeds into their self-hatred of their skin color and their obsession with being accepted by “the coloreds.” Its popularity has been largely forced and inflated (AFAIK Vixen operates Blacked at a loss and the margin is widening) and the only consumers are white liberals/leftists and Indians/Pakis (Pakistan is the number 1 searcher of it, and GeneralButch is from Bangladesh which was once part of Pakistan) and the producers are Jews, which is why I no longer consider Jewish males, no matter how white-passing, as part of Bleached.

2. It’s the vanilla option to most people. White on white, or really white on anything, is just standard porn to most people. No special label. Whereas black on white or black on any is labeled BBC and such. Though I have noticed “BWC” is a term that’s been growing a lot over the past few years.

3. Bleached in itself has really only existed as a label in hentai/cartoon porn. Some independent porn creators have done it IRL, but no major studio has done it. Which makes sense, because they hate our people and they will stop at nothing to try and instill self-hatred in us.

nothing really started "now" or direct response to recent history that impressed you personality. Bleached/Blacked di exist in various forms through the history: if you don't know the history, you got the illusion that history was made just in the timespan you're alive.
Blacked is the result of masculinization of people of African heritage all the way back in the slave trade which involved Europeans in time of conquistadores (South America first, then North America all the way to birth of USA and it's troubled history with race). The reason for this black masculinization is because, put simply, people is more inclined to accept abuse/violence towards men. This is not to say black women didn't suffer for it: present a whole ethic group as male is also a way to hide/conceal sexual abuses. After all you have just to say you're hetero, so why one would think you rape black women if they are presented as savage a masculine?

Then you got some random (white) people into sexual submission, they don't care the historical context: they just want the thrill of submission from "lesser" people to amplify the kink.

Bleached kink also existed in historical conquest, you just need to find one the many random novels where a white dude goes and conquest villages or savage kingdom by taking the savage princess/queen.

Personally, I don't like any of them. It's old, obsolete, asinine, and is capable to drive only people with some kind of mental health issues.

Today we have modern BDSM, we can play an healthy kink where people can understand, have empathy, respect and spank each other within the right timing (when actually feeling playful). I am sure there are assholes who don't actually care about people, and get in the kink just to express their hate or inability to relate healthy with other people: blacked, bleached; it makes no difference.

There's the ACTUAL s.s.c. bdsm kink of bleached/blacked: each participant is an healthy person who understand and respect others.

...and there's the SHITTY (nazi)bleached/blacked fake kink: the one in which people are into just for have a random thing packed with "sex" and being a morbid sociopath.

Aakord said:

nothing really started "now" or direct response to recent history that impressed you personality. Bleached/Blacked di exist in various forms through the history: if you don't know the history, you got the illusion that history was made just in the timespan you're alive.
Blacked is the result of masculinization of people of African heritage all the way back in the slave trade which involved Europeans in time of conquistadores (South America first, then North America all the way to birth of USA and it's troubled history with race). The reason for this black masculinization is because, put simply, people is more inclined to accept abuse/violence towards men. This is not to say black women didn't suffer for it: present a whole ethic group as male is also a way to hide/conceal sexual abuses. After all you have just to say you're hetero, so why one would think you rape black women if they are presented as savage a masculine?

Then you got some random (white) people into sexual submission, they don't care the historical context: they just want the thrill of submission from "lesser" people to amplify the kink.

Bleached kink also existed in historical conquest, you just need to find one the many random novels where a white dude goes and conquest villages or savage kingdom by taking the savage princess/queen.

Personally, I don't like any of them. It's old, obsolete, asinine, and is capable to drive only people with some kind of mental health issues.

Today we have modern BDSM, we can play an healthy kink where people can understand, have empathy, respect and spank each other within the right timing (when actually feeling playful). I am sure there are assholes who don't actually care about people, and get in the kink just to express their hate or inability to relate healthy with other people: blacked, bleached; it makes no difference.

There's the ACTUAL s.s.c. bdsm kink of bleached/blacked: each participant is an healthy person who understand and respect others.

...and there's the SHITTY (nazi)bleached/blacked fake kink: the one in which people are into just for have a random thing packed with "sex" and being a morbid sociopath.

Masculine and primitive/savage dont mean the same thing. People thinking blacks are savages doesnt mean people think blacks are just men otherwise it would be sexism not racism. It's not like black women were seen the same as white men.

AddictedToColonizing said:

Why isn't Bleachbooru and QOH content more popular?

I've never understood it. Why is the disgusting raceplay alternative of "Blacked booru and QOS" more popular than QOH? The only theories I have is the myth of BBC has spread around the internet far more than BWC has, and the fact there are a lot more white women than other minorities.

Leave your theories or reasons why in the replies I'm curious to find an answer or a general consensus.

Probably because 50% of this fetish's community are people who are actual nazi's, yess this fetish is racial, but not actually supposed to be racist, if we as a start would just ban all nazi shit off of public bleached forums and talking places, we'd look alot more acceptable.

If I had to take a guess it’s because it’s a bit more lighthearted than blacked (though there’s still a darker side to say the least) and as we all know even showing the slightest amount of decency, gentlemanly behavior or any form of communication that isn’t “oog oog sigma macho woman hater” dialogue means you’re a pathetic little beta bitch who deserves to be cucked, beaten, killed and such as. But that’s probably just my observation.

Probably isn’t helping that we’re putting on Nazi and Confederate iconography either

evolutionary_8044 said:

If I had to take a guess it’s because it’s a bit more lighthearted than blacked (though there’s still a darker side to say the least) and as we all know even showing the slightest amount of decency, gentlemanly behavior or any form of communication that isn’t “oog oog sigma macho woman hater” dialogue means you’re a pathetic little beta bitch who deserves to be cucked, beaten, killed and such as. But that’s probably just my observation.

Probably isn’t helping that we’re putting on Nazi and Confederate iconography either

На мой взгляд, порядочность и порно - вещи несовместимые, порно - это про похоть, а галантность, вежливость и нежность не для порно, потому что порно - это про самые низменные инстинкты человека, оно ни в коем случае не про чувства и эмоции, которые, просматривая порно, вы никогда не испытаете, вот почему порно и идут на весь экстрим и безнравственность, чтобы заменить эмоциональную связь визуальной стимуляцией, вот почему в порно появились рогоносцы, НТР, чернокожие, которые обращаются с женщинами как с дерьмом, и многое другое! Но тогда почему так много порно роликов с агрессивными, звероподобными неграми, которые трахают женщин, унижая и оскорбляя их, но есть и не такие, а с белыми парнями? Да, потому что это осуждается! Когда тебе из каждого микрофона говорят, что ты белый, ты потомок колонизаторов и убийц, тогда как-то стыдно смотреть порно, где белый мужчина доминирует над небелой женщиной, потому что ты должен каяться и унижаться перед потомками угнетенных, потому что ты такой, какой есть. нести ответственность за то, что делали ваши предки, именно по этой причине вся эта тема с Би-би-си более приемлема, потому что это своего рода акт покаяния перед покоренными народами, хотя все почему-то тактично умалчивают о том, что африканские рабы были куплены, по иронии судьбы, у других чернокожих в обмен на огнестрельное оружие! Я не говорю о том, что секс давно перестал ассоциироваться с актом любви между любящими друг друга людьми, секс теперь является чем-то животным и низменным, секс перестал ассоциироваться с романтическими отношениями, а стал ассоциироваться с похотью, сексуальной распущенностью и порно...... Так-так, я удивлен тем фактом, что наш мир все еще существует, мы все ужасно испорчены, еще немного и наш мир превратится в один огромный Содом, и человечество понесет наказание за это, и не важно, Бог ли это, который спустился с небес и превратил нас в соляные столбы или мы, которые уничтожили все живое на планете с помощью ядерного оружия

The abundance of nazi iconography and ideology (even the not-so-subtle allusions to the latter), at least within this site, will be extremely off putting to the average person that may have an interest in bleached content. Not to mention the slurs and unironic hardcore racism that isn't easily looked past. So in terms of this site and potentially other bleached-type hentai/porn aggregates, the content itself will immediately turn people away - yeah you can focus on the tamer aspects (like I do) but it's difficult to ignore it. I think some users might forget that actual white supremacy and Nazi or Nazi fetishization content for most, is a no-go. And I understand some parallels can be drawn with more extreme blacked content, but the mainstream/most accessible blacked content is generally waaaay tamer.

pooper1234567 said:

The abundance of nazi iconography and ideology (even the not-so-subtle allusions to the latter), at least within this site, will be extremely off putting to the average person that may have an interest in bleached content. Not to mention the slurs and unironic hardcore racism that isn't easily looked past. So in terms of this site and potentially other bleached-type hentai/porn aggregates, the content itself will immediately turn people away - yeah you can focus on the tamer aspects (like I do) but it's difficult to ignore it. I think some users might forget that actual white supremacy and Nazi or Nazi fetishization content for most, is a no-go. And I understand some parallels can be drawn with more extreme blacked content, but the mainstream/most accessible blacked content is generally waaaay tamer.

Also want to add that having options to blacklist certain tags could address some of this, at least in terms of this site. Don't think it would do much to increase popularity but it could help retain existing users who find the extreme shit repellent.

Because white men are terrified of non-white women.

Dogwater said:

Because white men are terrified of non-white women.

As a Latin American woman, real

Dogwater said:

Because white men are terrified of non-white women.

???

fkiblaze said:

Masculine and primitive/savage dont mean the same thing. People thinking blacks are savages doesnt mean people think blacks are just men otherwise it would be sexism not racism. It's not like black women were seen the same as white men.

You're looking for a logical ground and consistency that people involved in the slavery business and colonization didn't need.

They pictured slaves a savage to prey slaves from civil rights, they pictured as masculine to justify the cruelty on both male and female.

"Savage" and "masculine" were just tools, two separate words used to dehumanize and prey people as resources. They didn't need to be consistent or logic, just keep their business afloat.

pooper1234567 said:

Also want to add that having options to blacklist certain tags could address some of this, at least in terms of this site. Don't think it would do much to increase popularity but it could help retain existing users who find the extreme shit repellent.

Just realized it's possible to blacklist tags, my bad

Aakord said:

You're looking for a logical ground and consistency that people involved in the slavery business and colonization didn't need.

They pictured slaves a savage to prey slaves from civil rights, they pictured as masculine to justify the cruelty on both male and female.

"Savage" and "masculine" were just tools, two separate words used to dehumanize and prey people as resources. They didn't need to be consistent or logic, just keep their business afloat.

Masculine was seen as more human in the past though. The men were the "thinkers" and "creators" the women were just the subservient ones. Slavery had nothing to do with that. If you read the justification for slavery from their own writings it's just about blacks being dumb savages that need white rulers to get them to accomplish anything.