Marcal91 said:
I initially was going to go over the studies you mentioned, but I can't even find them in this person's now defunct page, and they are, as you said, not listed in the article, for some reason. It would be a lot of homework to expect from someone a thread in a fetish forum, and you're not even facilitating it a little bit. Starting to wonder if this mythical study really exists, or if it's just a thought experiment.
It's funny how you defend racism essentially doesn't exist, while you yourself being a self-proclaimed racist. Why don't you have the balls to say "This is because the truth is on my side, niggers are inferior, and some CEOs and hiring managers see that despite woke efforts to deny the truth, specially in the initial 2004 study before the whole anti-white rhetoric really gained strength", or something like that? Why do you defend the study is false (in the sense that black people don't really receive less calls for being black), rather than it being true and the results being good and justified? Not even "they are false, but we should strive to make them true"?
I've already put too much effort into this thread, so I'll only answer to some highlights and correct some misinterpretations about what I said earlier, that I'll assume you did by accident and not on purpose.
It's not a conspiracy theory if A: it's true, and B: It's not a conspiracy (they are not colluding with each other). The difference between that and anti-semitic theories is that white people are a majority (in the USA where this was based). Not only that but, since we live in a capitalist society where the wealth of your parents can give you a tremendous head start which you can then turn into more generational wealth to pass on to your children, and past racism (which I hope you won't disagree with) made sure white people carried that head start through generations, means white people are disproportionally wealthy (maybe you think it's deserved and that if black people were really equal to white people they would have gotten over the wealth gap by now, I don't really care, the point is that white people are, without a shadow of a doubt, much more likely to end up in a position of huge, generational wealth). And since we're ruled by capital, those white wealthy individuals are overwhelmingly more likely to be in positions of power. Even if you disagree with all of that, I hope you don't disagree with the fact that, if you look at the top, whether it is politicians or CEOs and big capital, it's mostly white men (and jewish doesn't even come close). If only a few of those white men think even remotely like you (and it's more than "a few" that do), you already have a system that's hurting the opportunities of non-white people, Systemic racism is even bigger than that and involves other societal structures, but that's way beyond the scope of this post. I'm sure you can find video essays explaining what systemic racism is, and if not, I'm happy to find them for you when I have more time.
I'm going to need more than a "trust me, bro, I read it on Twitter", and hopefully any reasonable person does too.
They are for gender equality by elevating the rights of women to be the same as those of men, even Sydney admitted so in the video. I would like them to do something when men are under attack, and some feminists (like me and my friends) do, but it's not the movement's job.
Who the fuck is justifying it? I explicitly stated I hate it, and how angry it made me. I even provided my own fucking example to add to yours, I'm ON YOUR SIDE in this one. My point is every feminist also doesn't like it. The facebook post you shared (clearly by feminists, as seen by the comments) was made explicitly to correct the article. The article was not made by feminsts, it was made by a media outlet way to scared of being seen as anti-feminist and overcompensating the other way. My anger is towards the media, not the feminists who never wanted the article to be like that in the first place.
Except you don't see the broader picture, you're here saying "this single point alone won't change my belief about feminism". It never worked like that for me either.
I don't think the joke works, I think they're unhinged, and I said so explicitly, but I still think it's not the same as if it was the other way around, because it's women that are usually the victims of rape, by an overwhelming amount, so the joke "I think we should get to rape men sometimes in compensation", while completely off the rails, wouldn't even make sense if a man said it. If the whole situation were reversed and men were the ones that were usually the victims, yeah, I think this joke would read the same as the original one in our universe.
Never said it did, just that it's hard for you to understand, because you've never lived it.
1- Read what I said again, I never said men are trash, I said a good number of men in the dating market are, and I already said the ame about women.
2- While I wouldn't say men are trash, I wouldn't blame anyone for saying it (when talking about dating specifically), specially if that person had bad experiences with men, and yeah, the exact same goes for saying "women are trash".
BTW I now realize I forgot to mention about "height requirements" in my original post, when I was reading yours I was planning to mention it because they make my blood boil, but it slipped my mind.
I'm not saying it would be OK, just it shouldn't surprise anyone that after being raised like that you end up with those views. I thought I made that clear in my original post.
As I said, this is likely my last reply on the thread, and most definitely my last long one, I've already dedicated too much time and effort to this, so let me just end with one comment:
I might disagree that white people and men are being attacked solely for who they are (in general terms), but even if you do think that's the case, it does not justify going the other way and becoming a racist and a misogynist, if you do that, you are doing the exact same thing you accuse feminism and BLM of doing, using oppression to justify attacks on the perceived oppressors. I consider myself a feminist, but I also ardently advocate for the rights of men, as I believed I proved. I don't care if you think I dissent with the mainstream feminist movement (which sometimes I do), and I don't care if you think I do so from a misguided point of view where I don't see some attacks happening in front of me, the point is I will always do my best to strive for equal opportunity and give everyone a fair shot, because those are my values, and I believe values are what matter the most.
