C00L_DUD3 said:
waaah racism bad
Bro shut the fuck up
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It is the regular tactics that racists and particularly Nazis use, that is to take a preexisting symbol and co-opt it as their own. The Swastika, the Roman salute, Nordic runes, Celtic Cross and the Iron Cross all preexisted Nazis well before the party got its name but now they're associated with White supremacy. It's even claimed they tried to use the OK hand gesture but that was just a media fad. Queen of Hearts is particularly vulnerable for self-evidentiary reasons. But there are many more "normal" people here like myself, Ivory-Futa and many more who mostly lurk this site for different reasons. Can't say you're better since you have a bunch of CP as your favorites. Funnily enough, this is the only place that's ever made me feel like a normal person LOL.
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H0sh said:
I can disconnect a fetish from the unhealthy things it would be in the real world and realize that being a literal natzis and having a kink are different
And this is you
Oriflamme said:
My sole personality trait is being racist and therefore anything that I say and do has to relate to that and I can't separate my kink from the rest of my life
I think the better question is why would you not be racist? I've never heard a single answer to this.
Like as a kid i wasnt racist because i thought the racists were like dumb rednecks, but then when i saw a single stat i became racist. Like i never grew up around blacks as a kid so i thought the whole "blacks commit more crimes" was just a racist stereotype but then when i saw the FBI data i was like, "oh so racism is right", then i became racist. (yes obviously as ive seen more data i know it's not just crime that racism was right about, other things like IQ, time preference, and so on, but even that point alone justifies racism)
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H0sh said:
It is the regular tactics that racists and particularly Nazis use, that is to take a preexisting symbol and co-opt it as their own. The Swastika, the Roman salute, Nordic runes, Celtic Cross and the Iron Cross all preexisted Nazis well before the party got its name but now they're associated with White supremacy. It's even claimed they tried to use the OK hand gesture but that was just a media fad. Queen of Hearts is particularly vulnerable for self-evidentiary reasons. But there are many more "normal" people here like myself, Ivory-Futa and many more who mostly lurk this site for different reasons. Can't say you're better since you have a bunch of CP as your favorites. Funnily enough, this is the only place that's ever made me feel like a normal person LOL.
Pretty sure the OK hand gesture was a meme to see if the media would fucking buy it. They did, and so did iDubz after marrying that narcissist. Some people cant be saved.
Its a huge shame about the Bellamy salute, and the other symbols, but then you can guess wjy that happened.
I dont understand the point to moral grandstanding in a raceplay website. I brought up Atheism+ because that is exactly what you are pulling, and in a similarly tone deaf fashion as it was by neorationalists in rationalist dialogues.
fkiblaze said:
I think the better question is why would you not be racist? I've never heard a single answer to this.
Like as a kid i wasnt racist because i thought the racists were like dumb rednecks, but then when i saw a single stat i became racist. Like i never grew up around blacks as a kid so i thought the whole "blacks commit more crimes" was just a racist stereotype but then when i saw the FBI data i was like, "oh so racism is right", then i became racist. (yes obviously as ive seen more data i know it's not just crime that racism was right about, other things like IQ, time preference, and so on, but even that point alone justifies racism)
Unbeleivably based, and if white is so good, then style on niggers being white. Its funnier that way being the good racist.
Yeah, i bet you don't accuse blacked losers of being racist, you know that other raceplay fetish that is toooootally ''just a fetish'' and that is basically everywhere in terms of pornographic media in this day and age. But, by all means, come here and lose your shit about a tiny miniscule fetish that no one even takes seriously I guess, screw the underdog.
fkiblaze said:
I think the better question is why would you not be racist? I've never heard a single answer to this.
Like as a kid i wasnt racist because i thought the racists were like dumb rednecks, but then when i saw a single stat i became racist. Like i never grew up around blacks as a kid so i thought the whole "blacks commit more crimes" was just a racist stereotype but then when i saw the FBI data i was like, "oh so racism is right", then i became racist. (yes obviously as ive seen more data i know it's not just crime that racism was right about, other things like IQ, time preference, and so on, but even that point alone justifies racism)
I guess if someone were a hardcore progressive they would attempt to either change the genome of humans using gene editing to remove most of the inherent differences between the sexes and ethnicities - so that everyone actually becomes the same blank slate from birth or alternatively force race mixing to eventually make everyone into the same shade of brown... Although Bleachbooru would probably enjoy the latter alternative very much!
An authoritarian one-world leftist government would also socialize everyone the same, expose them to the same exact culture, force them to live in similar environments etc.
Of course this would completely remove all forms of "diversity" that progressives currently worship so much, which is the greatest irony.
There is probably still a few sound arguments in favor of treating every group and individual exactly the same, like for instance 96% of humans will never murder another human in their lifetime, even if they're a poorly socialized Bantu from Sub-Saharan Africa with tendencies towards violence, the majority of them will still not commit murder against other humans.
Well unless you count abortion as murder, then women commit murder all of the time.
Dont be fooled, their professed beliefs are hardly what they are, their own, let alone well understood. Deliberately and pragmatically so, thanks to how education is about compliant mediocrity.
You really cant solve this woth gene editting, everything touching that has been a reverse Midas' touch. Mutagenics show as much, and humans are about 5 diverging subspecies as it is now. Making a template human between all of them is negative-sum, per admixture and cross adoption study. And lmao Magic Dirt Theory, Blank Slatism.
Eugenecists (as a faction espousing the above) are a special breed of midwit. They are the main reason why nuclear energy is so far away from ubiquity. Literal post-scarcity energy is held back because of multiple fundamentally falsified pet theories about human origins, speciation, and medicine. Man is not a machine, and we are a whole cloth spun from history, not tools or materials for a false future or nirvana.
You know things are fucked when Lamarck is a lot less wrong than we think, let alone Chan Thomas and fucking Kent Hovind as far as evolution goes.
(For home gamers, why are there the words catastrophe and disaster, and etymological clones of these words in most languages; but also how in the fuck is there exponential cranial volume growth in linear time?)
Per criminology, you make a huge mistake misunderstanding the concept of equality before law as one of equal opportunity. Its a statement by God, not from universal ethics. Universalism is utopian, and necessarily the ethics of the aforementioned Eugenecists. Also why the Blank Slatism, Subsaharans dont share 20% of their DNA with literally any other clade, and account for at least 80% of pan-human genome variance. The details only get worse when you look at average percent admixture of European in African Americans versus IQ or criminality.
(Neutral drift of the human genome my ass, even cats and dogs have less neutral drift than humans from each other)
Romans said jt well enough that they can have their own Church and Holy Spirit, but they are also of strange tongue and do not care for me and mine looking at the odds ratio in interracial crime.
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T_700_Z said:
I guess if someone were a hardcore progressive they would attempt to either change the genome of humans using gene editing to remove most of the inherent differences between the sexes and ethnicities - so that everyone actually becomes the same blank slate from birth or alternatively force race mixing to eventually make everyone into the same shade of brown... Although Bleachbooru would probably enjoy the latter alternative very much!
An authoritarian one-world leftist government would also socialize everyone the same, expose them to the same exact culture, force them to live in similar environments etc.
Of course this would completely remove all forms of "diversity" that progressives currently worship so much, which is the greatest irony.There is probably still a few sound arguments in favor of treating every group and individual exactly the same, like for instance 96% of humans will never murder another human in their lifetime, even if they're a poorly socialized Bantu from Sub-Saharan Africa with tendencies towards violence, the majority of them will still not commit murder against other humans.
Well unless you count abortion as murder, then women commit murder all of the time.
First of all, i dont think true equality is a good idea or even achievable, but ignoring that, you dont need to gene edit to change the genome of people to make them "more equal" both IVF and even just artificial selection does that. For example, everyone's IQ is going down in the west, not just blacks, because of dysgenic social policies. If you reversed that and made eugenic social policies (ie smarter people have more kids than dumber people, like in the past) then everyone's IQ would increase including blacks. As current society stands tho, black intelligence is going down faster than everyone elses because the gaps in who have kids are biggest for them. If a black woman is college educated she pretty much has 1 kid, but if she is a Shaniqua living on welfare with multiple baby daddies she has numerous kids.
As for mixing races to make 1 brown race, it's impossible. Dont get me wrong, getting rid of the white race is possible and on the trend to happen, but that only gets rid of a race, not makes the others mixed too. Africa for example isn't becoming any more white, and in fact, the few whites in south africa are becoming a smaller and smaller percent of the population. This is why the liberal ideal of being 1 human race is impossible because for that to happen, 1: there would have to be the same amount of every race, 2: every race would have to immigrate and mix in all the countries at the exact same rate (ie a million blacks come to the west but a million whites also go to africa) 3: everyone would have to have the same birth rate (a million blacks born in the west, and a million whites born in africa). As you can see none of these three would happen and youd need all of them.
As for crime, yes it's true only a few percent of people commit murders, that said when you go to violence in general you can get even up to the majority. Murder is just the most extreme version of violence. But yes, in terms of crime, you can just do the El Salvador method and just jail all the really violent people and that will work even in third world places.
As for why equality is a bad idea. 1: you would have to have insane levels of total authoritarian control which means you would have to force the majority of people into things they hate doing. 2: it would remove anything interesting or cool about humanity as you would have to normalize everything to be the same generic thing. There will be no musician you think is better than most musicians, or no favorite sportsball player you like, or favorite show you prefer, or unique hot girl you love, etc 3: differences and competition improve things, ie evolutionary selection, applies to free markets, too. 4: it goes against Gods creation and tries to remake babel. God made different people for different aspects of His creation.
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fkiblaze said:
I think the better question is why would you not be racist? I've never heard a single answer to this.
Like as a kid i wasnt racist because i thought the racists were like dumb rednecks, but then when i saw a single stat i became racist. Like i never grew up around blacks as a kid so i thought the whole "blacks commit more crimes" was just a racist stereotype but then when i saw the FBI data i was like, "oh so racism is right", then i became racist. (yes obviously as ive seen more data i know it's not just crime that racism was right about, other things like IQ, time preference, and so on, but even that point alone justifies racism)
Being racist is just non-logical, non-moral and basically gets you nowhere. Statistics can't be used for racism as most of the time they can't be placed on the group that you're being racist against. For example the infamous "13/50" statistic, says that black people make up 50% of the people arrested for murder in the United States, if you put that into percentage of their population you'll see that only 0.008% of the black population are arrested for murder. Why base the 99.998% of a group on the .002%? Every racists solution to this is just to start killing or deporting all black people which is not logical at all and could actual do more harm than good for America. While the fix to this is extremely easy, just pinpoint the demographics in the .002% and start mass arresting. Plus statistics could be used against white people as well, like pedophilia (child pornography in particular) and beastiality statistics. Just cause white men make up 82% of the people arrested for child pornography in the United States and World Wide doesn't mean that ALL white males are pedophiles and should be treated like such.
The reason why I say racism goes nowhere is because it has no positive qualities. Crossing the street when you see a group of young black men in ski masks isn't racism, it's common sense. Majority of things racists say to defend racism like "racism will save your life!" is literally just having the bare minimum of common sense. Like don't get into a relationship with a career criminal who recently got out of prison, don't walk alone at night in the hood with your new $500 shoes, $15,000 watch, designer shirt and pants on. All racism gives and has given is hate and violence. The average racist is just a normal person who complains about which ever group they hate online or irl, they aren't inventors, they aren't innovators, they add as much value to society as everybody else. When you're focused on the bad of other groups you can't see the bad in your group and could be victimized by your own people (which is statistically more likely to happen anyway). That's why all neo-nazis and kkk members who have been murdered were murdered by their fellow whites.
(With IQ I'm not even sure whether to fully believe or not as there's too many great arguments on both sides and no hard undebatable evidence yet. Also with certain researchers like Richard Lynn who were known to manipulate their work due to their own bias against certain groups, I can't fully trust anything. )
Mondo101 said:
Being racist is just non-logical, non-moral and basically gets you nowhere. Statistics can't be used for racism as most of the time they can't be placed on the group that you're being racist against. For example the infamous "13/50" statistic, says that black people make up 50% of the people arrested for murder in the United States, if you put that into percentage of their population you'll see that only 0.008% of the black population are arrested for murder. Why base the 99.998% of a group on the .002%? Plus statistics could be used against white people as well, like pedophilia (child pornography in particular) and beastiality statistics. Just cause white men make up 82% of the people arrested for child pornography in the United States and World Wide doesn't mean that ALL white males are pedophiles and should be treated like such.
There are a few things wrong here, but for the specific example first, first of all, those are just the people arrested for murder in a single year, not the people arrested for a murder in their life, or even the people who committed murder as murder in the ghetto has a rather low clearance rate. The ones solved are just a minority. Secondly, murder is only the most rare and extreme violence, you are far more likely to get mugged and jumped and beat up by a black man than murderer, true, but the former is still bad, just not as bad. It probably is very likely that close to the majority of black people commit a violent crime in their life if you go down the numbers. Also pedophilia in terms of actual rape of children is a lot more common in the ghetto, it's just like murders, low rate of actually being gone after.
But regardless yes, I know and agree with the point, the majority of black people are not criminals, but that is not what racism is, the next point is what racism is, not "black people are all criminals."
The reason why I say racism goes nowhere is because it has no positive qualities. Crossing the street when you see a group of young black men in ski masks isn't racism, it's common sense. Majority of things racists say to defend racism like "racism will save your life!" is literally just having the bare minimum of common sense. Like don't get into a relationship with a career criminal who recently got out of prison, don't walk alone at night in the hood with your new $500 shoes, $15,000 watch, designer shirt and pants on.
Except no, that is what racism is, discrimination based on race. If you think to yourself, I'm not going to walk down this street because that's the ghetto where the blacks live, that is racism. Yes it's common sense, too, because racism is literally common sense, which is why everyone engaged in it before it became bad in 1960s. You literally have to disregard common sense to not be racist. In fact, even saying, "i dont date black women because i think they are ugly" is racism, because that is discrimination based on race. Racism does not, nor ever meant, you think all black people are the same. It's simply just pattern recognition. Group A is more likely to commit crime, so i choose to live by Group B. Doesn't even mean you think the majority will commit violence, or so on, just means it is safer to be with group B so you be with group B. That is how it played out in the real world too, even in extreme periods of time like segregation of America. "I want to eat or go to the movie theater with Group B because it is safer or a better experience" there was no "ban black people from having their own restaurant or school, or movie theater. It was just, "i dont went to send to my kids to school with them because the school experience will be worse." or "i like watching movie with whites because there is always some black group in the theater hooting and hollering during the movie" And this was the extreme area of racism in history. Not everywhere in USA even had segregation.
Every racists solution to this is just to start killing or deporting all black people which is not logical at all and could actual do more harm than good for America. While the fix to this is extremely easy, just pinpoint the demographics in the .002% and start mass arresting.
No actually, that is a just fictional characters. No racist government in existence, even the most extreme ones like nazis thought "we should just kill all black people." The fact that lefties think this is the problem with their own mind. They are the ones who think "blacks cant be lesser than than whites, otherwise that means we have to kill them!" It's pure projection of sick minds. Let me ask you this, do you think your own dog is as smart or so on as you? No. So does that mean you think we should exterminate all dogs and torture them? Or do we just put down the dogs that become rabid and attack people? So even if you think black people are dogs, which no one really does, that still doesn't mean you mistreat them for any sane mind. Now doing actual policies deemed racist by lefties are things like you suggested that are smart, send police into the ghettos to mass arrest murders and gang members. But we don't do this anymore because it's "racism" because you are targeting black areas and sending more police to where blacks live.
All racism gives and has given is hate and violence. The average racist is just a normal person who complains about which ever group they hate online or irl, they aren't inventors, they aren't innovators, they add as much value to society as everybody else. When you're focused on the bad of other groups you can't see the bad in your group and could be victimized by your own people (which is statistically more likely to happen anyway). That's why all neo-nazis and kkk members who have been murdered were murdered by their fellow whites.
As pointed out earlier, no that's just the sick mind of lefties. Racism actually saved more black lives than groups like BLM which contribute to black murders by defunding police and so on. Also that isn't necessarily true, KKK and groups have had run ins with black gangs and so on, but yes most murder currently is within race because people self segregate, AKA racism/white flight. If white people didnt leave when blacks ghettoized an area though, they would be just as targeted by those black gangs living there. As for actual hate, there are some sure, but that is true of any group. Lefties hate capitalists and racists just as much as a racist that hates black.
(With IQ I'm not even sure whether to fully believe or not as there's too many great arguments on both sides and no hard undebatable evidence yet. Also with certain researchers like Richard Lynn who were known to manipulate their work due to their own bias against certain groups, I can't fully trust anything. )
There is no great arguments on the other side, human biodiversity science is the most solid field of social sciences there is. No one science has higher replication rates than the "racist science"
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T_700_Z said:
Race fetishism is inherently "racist". You're allowed to express your displeasure, but it's not at all unexpected that "racists" will flock to a "racist" porn fetish...
You are not familiar with racism lore, only racism gameplay.
The reason why some people genuinely consider genocide of certain groups to be a moral good is because they believe the human genome or standard of living will be significantly improved overall once [X] group of people are eradicated. Morals ≠ ethics here, and the most hilarious part to me is that if someone believes that "morality is subjective" then there's no objective moral argument against this within their belief system.
TBH even disregarding morality, I don't think racial genocide is logically consistent, because if it's about improving the personal experience, it's just a fact that an African living on a lower standard of living is happier than a white person living with a higher standard of living. You can look at suicide rates for evidence. Now there are some places where Africans do have high suicide rates, but the point is it's not just tied to standard of living. Secondly white people are a minority of the world population so genociding a majority for the benefit of a minority is anti-utilitarian. Now ethnic cleansing, aka mass deporting people from one region to another can be logically justified because you are improving the experience for people as usually it's a minority of a population moved to a region where they will be a majority instead of cause trouble for the majority of the other region.
TallWhiteAndHung said:
Better to be a racist than a pathetic coward. Fear of being called bad names preventing you from discussing sensitive topics? Weak.
TallWhiteAndHung said:
Better to be a racist than a pathetic coward. Fear of being called bad names preventing you from discussing sensitive topics? Weak.
TallWhiteAndHung said:
Better to be a racist than a pathetic coward. Fear of being called bad names preventing you from discussing sensitive topics? Weak.
Says the one who is so fragile they have to tear others down to seem cool.
Like seriously did you even think this through you are so utterly pathetic that you have to arbitrary ignore like 80% of the human race to even pretend you are comparable to anyone.
It the best thing about you is something that you literally have no control over you are pathetic.
fkiblaze said:
I think the better question is why would you not be racist? I've never heard a single answer to this.
Like as a kid i wasnt racist because i thought the racists were like dumb rednecks, but then when i saw a single stat i became racist. Like i never grew up around blacks as a kid so i thought the whole "blacks commit more crimes" was just a racist stereotype but then when i saw the FBI data i was like, "oh so racism is right", then i became racist. (yes obviously as ive seen more data i know it's not just crime that racism was right about, other things like IQ, time preference, and so on, but even that point alone justifies racism)
Not every black person lives in the u.s and Well if you did pay attention to statistics you would know that first world countries as a whole have better statistics than elsewhere.
In all honesty there is a chance that you may be right but considering how impossible it is for there to be accurate statistics like this it means literally nothing.
But let's assume you are right and the professionals who know more than you are wrong.
Do you think Asians are better than whites?
Why not they live longer and have an higher IQ.
So do you agree that whites should be subservient to the Superior Asians?
fkiblaze said:
First of all, i dont think true equality is a good idea or even achievable, but ignoring that, you dont need to gene edit to change the genome of people to make them "more equal" both IVF and even just artificial selection does that. For example, everyone's IQ is going down in the west, not just blacks, because of dysgenic social policies. If you reversed that and made eugenic social policies (ie smarter people have more kids than dumber people, like in the past) then everyone's IQ would increase including blacks. As current society stands tho, black intelligence is going down faster than everyone elses because the gaps in who have kids are biggest for them. If a black woman is college educated she pretty much has 1 kid, but if she is a Shaniqua living on welfare with multiple baby daddies she has numerous kids.
As for mixing races to make 1 brown race, it's impossible. Dont get me wrong, getting rid of the white race is possible and on the trend to happen, but that only gets rid of a race, not makes the others mixed too. Africa for example isn't becoming any more white, and in fact, the few whites in south africa are becoming a smaller and smaller percent of the population. This is why the liberal ideal of being 1 human race is impossible because for that to happen, 1: there would have to be the same amount of every race, 2: every race would have to immigrate and mix in all the countries at the exact same rate (ie a million blacks come to the west but a million whites also go to africa) 3: everyone would have to have the same birth rate (a million blacks born in the west, and a million whites born in africa). As you can see none of these three would happen and youd need all of them.
As for crime, yes it's true only a few percent of people commit murders, that said when you go to violence in general you can get even up to the majority. Murder is just the most extreme version of violence. But yes, in terms of crime, you can just do the El Salvador method and just jail all the really violent people and that will work even in third world places.
As for why equality is a bad idea. 1: you would have to have insane levels of total authoritarian control which means you would have to force the majority of people into things they hate doing. 2: it would remove anything interesting or cool about humanity as you would have to normalize everything to be the same generic thing. There will be no musician you think is better than most musicians, or no favorite sportsball player you like, or favorite show you prefer, or unique hot girl you love, etc 3: differences and competition improve things, ie evolutionary selection, applies to free markets, too. 4: it goes against Gods creation and tries to remake babel. God made different people for different aspects of His creation.
Really god? If that's one of the best reasons to be against equality ten there ain't no reason to not have equality.
Also stop straw Manning when people say equality they mean treat people the same for the same things. So you can like music but you can't immediately assume that black people are inherently worse.